Fidgell, we weren't comparing ferraris, well not till Nov anyway.

Wizad, you seem like a decent chap, want to pop through when you are down and take a look?

We're not all ERIC's I promise!

Well if that's what you need to get by your in the wrong job! Im glad Im not down there, but would be nice to get the extra money. I believe in one pay for one job and all ACC/TCs should be paid exactly the same. Cant comment on the tower side as Im not clued up in that side of the ops. The banding module is highly flawed and unfair, why would LACC/LTCC staff care if MACC and SCATCC earned the same as long as they get enough?

Isn't this where the proper controllers join in and say that radar ATCOs are only TCAS supplements????

No?

Too obvious?

Ok then.......

well that made me laugh..... i only found out what eric meant yesterday.
that would be a good thing... once we are down, hopefully there will be some big initiative to famil with adjacent TC/EnRoute sectors rather than screaming down the phones at eachother.
cant say that for all of us though.... as long as we can still take the p**s out of eachother for being s**t.... then im happy. its what makes the world rotate you know.

alternatively, we could jump ship, wipe the dust off the tower ticket and go park planes with gonzo...:ok:
W

oh.... and why is there ALWAYS someone who feels the need to tell you that you are in the wrong job, i.e fidgell.
i didnt see the part on my contract that says i must be a clone and have the same personality as everyone else.
and if you want the extra money... feel free to come down here and get it. more than welcome.
W

You HAVE a personality????:eek:

sense of humour to!!!!:eek:

I guess you'd need one just to be you! Hope it keeps your world rotating!

nah... my band 5 salary and london weighting do that mate.

how else would myself and mancboy be able to keep the ferraris?

W

Wiz, look forward to it.

Hopefull sometime in the future, midlands and dty etc, will be sat at the console next to each other so if you give me a pile of s..t I'll be able to say it to your face and visa versa.

Come Nov some people will be brave if they forget that they are less than 100 metres away and not 70miles away.

TCAS supplements, parking attendants, my airspace is more complicated than yours, we get more trainees than you, and it goes on..... brilliant banter.

Anyway, as I said put TC in a band 6 just to be awkward, banding to be based on a CLEAR formula based on a sum which includes complexity, staff, and planes. No fiddles on then end to keep everyone happy. Thames radar band 5, amazing.

Banding divided and conquered the whole company, management split us all up, relying on greed, and they know it will work for the pension next.

That's how I see it.

A good point made above was, if you earn enough, why care so much what other people earn, mind your business, and enjoy your own life.

Fair enough?? Or way off?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=2326

brrr, bit chilly up there!

I'd be happy for Macc to get a new band, Band Fife, cos you'll be closer to that than here.

enjoy:ok:

well said sherm, I don't actually care what anyone else gets paid.

mancboy.

to true... im sure things will be fine and we will live in peace and harmony. you never know... there may even be a social side....

seriously though where do you get your ferrari serviced?

W:E

a nice little place in the new forest, although if you aren't band five you couldn't afford a mortgage to live here.

Alternatively, you could leave Nats at the earliest opportunity and spend the rest of your life laughing at the incessant squabbling....and some of the good humoured banter of course.

Hi Dad, how you doing?

Counting the money!

Can i borrow a tenner?

"Come Nov some people will be brave if they forget that they are less than 100 metres away and not 70miles away."
Are you a hard case then Manc Boy?

Have you seen the size of the guys on the west end on some of the watches.
Must be the air they breath down there:} my dads bigger than your dad.
Can we have a set of swing doors like the old days between TC and AC he.he