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HEATHROW DIRECTOR 23rd Sep 2004 06:57

<<All we need now is to arrange a group of us to visit LHR to undertake a tour of remaining relics >>

Come and see me any time - I'm a relic!!

Seriously, how many are left? I don't even know where the
Alcock & Brown memorial is.. And does anyone remember the
Cedar of Lebanon tree??

Rhys S. Negative 23rd Sep 2004 21:44

Can't help with the tree, HD - sir, but Alcock and Brown are back on the northside, by the visitors' centre; not that far from where they were first installed some 50 years ago, I guess!

Personally I'd give a lot to spend one more hot summer day on the roof of the Queen's Building, though I suspect the view isn't quite as I remember it from the early '70s.

Rhys.

stagger 23rd Sep 2004 23:32

To see a photo of the old runways from the air - rent Dr Strangelove. The photo of the air force base on the general's office wall is actually of Heathrow...

http://www.buchal.com/salmon/news/ne...ges/ripper.jpg

shack 24th Sep 2004 12:20

Was going to keep out of this 'cos of the "I remember when factor" but could not resist in the end. The apron north of 28R (shows my age) was used in the early 60's as the cargo area and the Pan Am 707 that Airsmiles referred to would have been the Clipper 160/161 that came in early morning and left for EDDF. There would also have been it's TWA 707 equivalent, other users would have been an Aer Fungus Viscount freighter, the beloved Air France Breguet 761/763 Deux Ponts and maybe a Lufthansa Connie.

With the cargo area being North side freighters would always want to use 28R for landing, difficult with a night restriction on 28R landings, I was once promised by an Aer Lingus that he would be "quite as a mouse if he could use 28R", gave him an approach on 28L and he switched runways at about ˝ mile. The Breguet used to come inbound through Biggin early morning at min stack always winging in a thick French for descent as he appeared to have a problem losing height (to say nothing of the mobile traffic block it made outbound as it staggered towards Seaford!!) I remember JK winding him around the sky trying to get his height off to be greeted by a heavy French accent, "Londrés what you tink I am, a fighteeer"

05 approaches were normally a radar circuit with the aircraft required to call finals crossing the river, could be a bit of a sweat if you had one that was a bit tardy rolling on the 10's. 33L and 15R approaches were also flown as radar approaches with corresponding 28 or 10 departures.

Hope that helps.

Vercingetorix 24th Sep 2004 16:32

Air Canada there also

A bientot

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 24th Sep 2004 19:39

"Air Canada there also"

Follow the greens....

vintage ATCO 24th Sep 2004 21:42

Captain Windsock's Photos
 
Heathrow 1946 and 1950

http://www.stevelevien.com/jpgs/EGLL4650.jpg

Heathrow 1956

http://www.stevelevien.com/jpgs/EGLL56.jpg

TheOddOne 29th Sep 2004 11:33

Thanks everyone for the massive o/d on nostalgia! I was LHR MASU '82 to '90 so enjoyed some evenings watching the fun on 23 from a 'ring-side' seat after opening up the VASI covers. Don't remember a Concorde 23 departure but a number of landings. Only landing on 23 was as a pax in a 1-11 autoland so hard I thought my fillings had come loose. Rollout so short we were able to turn right straight to our stand on the Deltas (when they were remote!)
Also remember the Pan-Am 74 that lost an engine landing on 23 - actually off the pylon on the ground?

Cheers,
TheOddOne

woodpecker 29th Sep 2004 12:10

111 autoland? No wonder it was hard!


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