Hey Ausatco, When I worked an extremely large non radar sector in Oz, a few years back, I heard a couple of the asian pilots use CC. Now over in the Middle East, I hear it alot. It isn't any quicker than "affirm", but it is clear what is intended by the response so I have no problem with it being used. Generally Australia is, from what I have seen in a very multicultural ATC Centre here, the most regimented and strict RT wise, and sticks to the book more than anyone else I have seen. Initially coming here the relaxed RT freaked me out, and I fought against it, but you hit your head against a brick wall long enough, you just give yourself a sore head. Once you get over that, the relaxed RT generally works just as well, and I think Oz could learn a bit from the rest of the world and take a chill pill.

I still remember the look I got when I "concurred" to a level change. The other controller was sure I was a horses hoof!!!

Ah the slippery-slope...

So long as phraseology doesn’t degenerate to the point where approach clearances go something like,

“five from it, three thousand till it, cleared for it, call the tower at it….”

You know who you are, and you know damned well it's wrong.

:rolleyes:

Who came up with affirm and negative anyway?
What's wrong with "Yes" and "No"?
Short, concise, easily distinguishable and the two most understood words in the world.

The police get along quite happily in the UK with 'Yes, yes' and 'No, no' to make themselves clearer.

Tim

"Charlie Charlie" has been used since the dark ages...and it's like a cockroach, not even a nuclear winter will kill the expression.:}

But really, who cares?

Ausatco, I worked in Oz for over 15 years...used to hear it all the time.

The one that really annoys me is...."mumble mumble mumble...interogative?"

Cheers