Charlie charlie?
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Under ITU rules (which apply in a general way to all forms of radio communication) the code letter "C" (charlie) means "yes/affirmative/the siginificance of the previous group should be ready in the positive".
Although it doesn't figure in UK legislation, the term "charlie charlie" is widely used internationally in the same way as the UK term "affirm".
See also the separate discussion of the use of "securite", another ITU expression used widely internationally but not really seen in the UK aeronautical world.
Although it doesn't figure in UK legislation, the term "charlie charlie" is widely used internationally in the same way as the UK term "affirm".
See also the separate discussion of the use of "securite", another ITU expression used widely internationally but not really seen in the UK aeronautical world.
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It's a slap dash R/T expression used by slap dash pilots (and occassionally atcos) who can't be arsed to use proper R/T procedures.
Use it on my frequency and I'll send the boys round.....
Use it on my frequency and I'll send the boys round.....
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It's a slap dash R/T expression used by slap dash pilots (and occassionally atcos) who can't be arsed to use proper R/T procedures.
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It's a slap dash R/T expression used by slap dash pilots (and occassionally atcos) who can't be arsed to use proper R/T procedures.
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I thought it came from the nautical alphabet, the flag for the letter C meaning "yes".
One should know what CC means, being a controller.
An Aeroflot pilot has been asked recently whether his destination was Uniform Uniform Echo Echo.
His answer was: Charlie Charlie
Then his flightplan was changed by the controller to UUCC.
He might still be wondering!
One should know what CC means, being a controller.
An Aeroflot pilot has been asked recently whether his destination was Uniform Uniform Echo Echo.
His answer was: Charlie Charlie
Then his flightplan was changed by the controller to UUCC.
He might still be wondering!
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The funny thing is
...Its interesting to see where the priorties lie in Uk ATC.
Niknak is worried about the slap-dash-whoops-hows-your-father use of Charlie Charlie but the minor issues of separation of traffic, and coordination, passing estimates etc... well we wont worry about those will we .....
TT
Niknak is worried about the slap-dash-whoops-hows-your-father use of Charlie Charlie but the minor issues of separation of traffic, and coordination, passing estimates etc... well we wont worry about those will we .....
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Now that really is funny....
.... a Maastricht controller trying to take the moral high ground on "the minor issues of separation of traffic".
If I only had a pound (that fine British currency) for every time Maastricht gave me traffic that wasn't separated, I'd be able to comfortably retire from ATC on the ensuing windfall.
LTP
If I only had a pound (that fine British currency) for every time Maastricht gave me traffic that wasn't separated, I'd be able to comfortably retire from ATC on the ensuing windfall.
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If I only had a pound (that fine British currency) for every time Maastricht gave me traffic that wasn't separated, I'd be able to comfortably retire from ATC on the ensuing windfall.
We could comfortably afford to double that stake LTP and be quite sure of being wealthy. They do exactly the same to us in that nasty wee corner of sector 10/11 where they chuck us the traffic in your airspace without co-ordinating with either you or us ... and we have the minor matter of not having half of the traffic identified because it is on a squawk which converts to something already in NAS.
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LMAO
lets see...
Kettle .... Black..... Calling .....Pot not in that order...
Or something to do with glass houses but cant remeber exactly what...
Arrans view - I agree with you 100% that is a nasty corner and handled poorly.
lets see...
Kettle .... Black..... Calling .....Pot not in that order...
Or something to do with glass houses but cant remeber exactly what...
Arrans view - I agree with you 100% that is a nasty corner and handled poorly.
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This thread started with the discussion about the meaning of "CC", if I recall ... why are we (?) discussing poor atc practices ?
I often get CC as an affirmative answer and sometimes only C and knowing what it means, accept it ...
But I do try not to use it.
I often get CC as an affirmative answer and sometimes only C and knowing what it means, accept it ...
But I do try not to use it.
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In 34 years of Aussie ATC I cannot recall hearing CC for "yes", though I've never worked HF. Must be a European thing.
Here we are strict users of "Affirmative", the aviation abbreviation for "yes", itself abbreviated in AIP to "Affirm", and "Negative", the aviation abbreviation for "no". For some reason AIP has not reduced that to "neg"
AA
Here we are strict users of "Affirmative", the aviation abbreviation for "yes", itself abbreviated in AIP to "Affirm", and "Negative", the aviation abbreviation for "no". For some reason AIP has not reduced that to "neg"
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