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letMfly 3rd Jun 2004 10:36

Abu Dhabi Contract - Serco or NATS?
 
Well - what happened????????????????

TwoDogs 3rd Jun 2004 12:23

Sweet F A so far .... you were expecting something else ?:rolleyes:

Minesapint 3rd Jun 2004 17:14

BREAKING NEWS.

NATS AWARDED ALL MIDDLE EASTERN ATC CONTRACTS BY AL QUADIS.

Sorry. Just trying to liven up the thread a bit ;-)

SpehricXxX 3rd Jun 2004 18:40

Surely this morning events wont help NATS a lot !!

but it doesnt seem anyone cares or lookin for the result anymoreeee....

niknak 3rd Jun 2004 18:47

Skysafe????????????? :E :E :E

throw a dyce 3rd Jun 2004 23:12

As I said before Mid April really means Christmas in the UAE.Ding Dong merrily on high........:cool:

clipped_wings 4th Jun 2004 07:14

What really happened to the previous thread? Did Bob is your Uncle get on a promise of a management job ?

Contract award will be announced before Ramadan .....................................but which year?

Legs11 4th Jun 2004 10:48

Who's this AL QUADIS bloke, and how come he gets to make the decision.

:D

Zones 4th Jun 2004 11:32

NATS exhibiting in DXB Jun7-9
 
Why don't some of you go and have a chat with the NATS folk manning their exhibit at forthcoming Airport Expo at DXB Airport June 7-9?

Should provide some amusment for someone, even if no firm information will be forthcoming...:ok:

Fox3snapshot 4th Jun 2004 20:01

Will they be displaying the new uniforms, rosters and salary packages for Abu Dhabi.....??

:E

workingatco 5th Jun 2004 18:37

Sharpen Up NAKNIK

The company is called Safeskys not Skysafe.

It has been established for 11 years, it hasn't given up trying, it is probably your best bet for a decent ATC job and hopefully will get there...one day. An ATC company run and managed by ATCOs- now is that a good idea or would you rather have bean counters ?

Safeskys entered a bid against Serco 5 years ago for this contract and went through the same saga which NATS is now going through.

It takes many years and lots of influence to establish relationships in the Middle East. NATS have not acquired that skill or level of contacts/influence yet. Sadly, Serco are safe.

Business in the Middle east is very different from European business you know, or perhaps you don't, Niknak.

niknak 5th Jun 2004 20:13

working atco - my humble apologies, I was so busy trying to find out exactly where you have any contracts to provide atcos, or if it comes to it, any atc staff, I nearly went to sleep.

Your regular bulletins to UK units boasting at your abilities in scaring birds are very interesting and reflect very well on the staff who are daft enough to work for you, but it says an awful lot about you as an ATC provider - bugger all :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It is noticeable that you didn't even put in a bid for the most recent major atc contract, nor have you won a major contract to provide the complete atco provision at a major UK or European airport in your companies history, perhaps you have finally recognised your own limitations.

SoftTop 8th Jun 2004 10:08

I see from the list of exhibitors at the Dubai bash (http://www.theairportshow.com) that there's no sign of Serco - or even a company name that could be Serco. They weren't there last year either. A sign of their arrogance perhaps??

ILS 119.5 8th Jun 2004 17:50

How many ATCO's are employed by Safeskys and where? Personally never heard of this major ATC provider.

And best bet for an ATC job. Why, what do they pay radar qualified staff? Probably not a lot, so maybe not the best bet for an ATC job.

On the beach 13th Jun 2004 10:37

Abu Dhabi contract
 
Sunday Telegraph breaks news on Abu Dhabi contract

The business section of the Sunday Telegraph seems to think that NATS has been awarded the Abu Dhabi contract.

Extract from article on "Nats lands safely with £2m profit"

buried in paragraph 4 is the following:-

"The airports business is growing and recently won a contract to manage flights from Abu Dhabi airport."

However, nothing mentioned on the NATS web site yet. Is this journalistic licence or should we all start packing our sunnies?

:cool: On the beach :cool:

Minesapint 13th Jun 2004 12:31

Excellent news!

SoftTop 13th Jun 2004 13:24

The Telegraph has been a bit "previous" on earlier occasions with business news. I'm not going to hold my breath (went a funny colour last time).

I'll wait for the "all NATS" e-mail or an announcement on NATSNet.

Chickens, eggs, counting ...... :bored:

On another tack - I don't suppose the article mentioned which side of the business had either made, or contributed most to, the profit?

Bright-Ling 13th Jun 2004 17:07

But the unions latest newlsletter says that Prospect have withdrawn from the talks, as anyone who applies would basically have to resign for NATS, sign for a new NATS company ("NATS Middle East"?) and not have any union rights as Abu Dhabi doesn't allow Unions.

A step forward??

letMfly 13th Jun 2004 18:51

The original trawl mentioned that staff volunteering for Abu Dhabi/Al Ain would have their pensions looked after and a guaranteed job with "NATS UK" (my inverted commas) at the end of their tour.

IF NATS has been successful with the contract it will be interesting to see how they can release enough staff to make any difference to the existing compliment and how much are they going to pay to make it worthwhile?:cool:

2 six 4 13th Jun 2004 22:31

As I said ssssooooo long ago ... where is my suntan lotion and my old Tower rating :D :D :D


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