MACC to Scotland, About time too
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MACC to Scotland, About time too
At last, NATS management have made a great decision and decided to post all you deadlegs at Manchester to ScATCC.
No doubt you will all be 'up in arms ' about this, but in my excellent opinion it's about time. You guys have had the easy life of a great cheap place to live for years. Now you can have a ****, cheap place to live.
And don't forget you are a mobile grade!
No doubt you will all be 'up in arms ' about this, but in my excellent opinion it's about time. You guys have had the easy life of a great cheap place to live for years. Now you can have a ****, cheap place to live.
And don't forget you are a mobile grade!
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Bound to get a few in his net though
Bound to get a few in his net though
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Have been living here for 14 years, comfortable cheap house, very few traffic jams, and consequently roads where I could enjoy the performance of my new Porsche 911.
Life is awfully difficult for an English ATCO at ScOACC, not !
As for the working environment, I am sure the lessons of LACC will have been learned, and our new building will be on time !
The only likely problem is that there won't be enough big houses to go round when you all bring your wads of cash up from Macclesfield and the like.
Life is awfully difficult for an English ATCO at ScOACC, not !
As for the working environment, I am sure the lessons of LACC will have been learned, and our new building will be on time !
The only likely problem is that there won't be enough big houses to go round when you all bring your wads of cash up from Macclesfield and the like.
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MACC 29, read PpruNe Radar's comment He's probably a jealous NERC dweller.
Bet the move doesn't happen until a certain JC has retired.
Lon More,
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Bet the move doesn't happen until a certain JC has retired.
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Manchester/Mobile Grades
No-one at Manchester will go to Scotland against their wishes. The mobile grade provision applied only up to the time that Scotland became devolved and started to enjoy its own Parliament. A compulsory posting to Scotland would fall into the same category as a compulsory posting to a foreign country. An employee cannot be forcibly moved to a country with a different system of laws, customs, and practices.
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I'm sorry but this anti scacc view that seems to be permiating (apologies for spelling) from south of the border is out of order. For anyone who has come up here and had a bad experience I'm sorry but they are in the minority, and unless people are basing their comments on actual experience they have no right to slate either the people or the place.
I live in a place that would have cost half the money of a place at either Manch or down south and I do mean half (AND M6 I think mine will still be standing long after your plasterboard hut falls to the ground) & the pubs open later what more could you want!!.
and no i dont work for the tourist board
I live in a place that would have cost half the money of a place at either Manch or down south and I do mean half (AND M6 I think mine will still be standing long after your plasterboard hut falls to the ground) & the pubs open later what more could you want!!.
and no i dont work for the tourist board
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Your perspective of history is a bit lacking. Scotland has had it's own laws and legal system since before the United kingdom was created and they continue now in a slightly different form. Norther Ireland has had a devolved government on and off for decades.
Your contract of employment, based upon English law, has not changed. You can be compulsorily posted to any part of the United Kingdom which still exists.
MACC 29. Having seen some of your posts before I expect you will enjoy working with your new colleagues who express many views similar to yours.
P.S. According to newspapers here today the new centre has officially been given the go ahead with work re-starting as soon as October. No doubt we will read all about it on return at work.
Your perspective of history is a bit lacking. Scotland has had it's own laws and legal system since before the United kingdom was created and they continue now in a slightly different form. Norther Ireland has had a devolved government on and off for decades.
Your contract of employment, based upon English law, has not changed. You can be compulsorily posted to any part of the United Kingdom which still exists.
MACC 29. Having seen some of your posts before I expect you will enjoy working with your new colleagues who express many views similar to yours.
P.S. According to newspapers here today the new centre has officially been given the go ahead with work re-starting as soon as October. No doubt we will read all about it on return at work.
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Sure I will Aaran, the point I was making was it was a rather pathetic attempt just to wind folk up. I'm certainly not anti-scottish being 50% scottish myself!!!
Just that sort of attitude doesn't help matters. I do however think that 055166K may have a valid point that has been raised with the powers that be at Manch, since the Scottish parliment came into being it would effectively be a move to another country, now how many will actually stand up for thier rights is another matter.
I don't believe there is any Anti-scottish feeling south of the border at all, its just a typical ATCO anti-change thing nothing to do with Scotland at all, indeed if the recent BBC poll is to be believed there is a strong anti-english feeling north of the border!, something else that has been brought up with management. As I said before its a team game and we ware all on the same team so if we end up working in the same building I hope the attitudes of the likes of M6 Northbound are laid firmly to rest!!!!
Just that sort of attitude doesn't help matters. I do however think that 055166K may have a valid point that has been raised with the powers that be at Manch, since the Scottish parliment came into being it would effectively be a move to another country, now how many will actually stand up for thier rights is another matter.
I don't believe there is any Anti-scottish feeling south of the border at all, its just a typical ATCO anti-change thing nothing to do with Scotland at all, indeed if the recent BBC poll is to be believed there is a strong anti-english feeling north of the border!, something else that has been brought up with management. As I said before its a team game and we ware all on the same team so if we end up working in the same building I hope the attitudes of the likes of M6 Northbound are laid firmly to rest!!!!
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Perhaps any MACC types who don't fancy a trek to the great even more frozen even further north would care to come on down to West Drayton or NERC.
Always plenty of room for experienced controllers who could be "fast tracked" and valid in no time!
Form an orderly queue.......
Always plenty of room for experienced controllers who could be "fast tracked" and valid in no time!
Form an orderly queue.......
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Like your posts, you talk a lot of sense, but if you ignore the traffic that Macc and Scatcc share then Macc is still the busier.
Yes I know, different airspace etc, etc, etc but point is still made.
Like your posts, you talk a lot of sense, but if you ignore the traffic that Macc and Scatcc share then Macc is still the busier.
Yes I know, different airspace etc, etc, etc but point is still made.
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Is that taking into account the transfer of the North Sea sectors from LACC to ScACC ?
Not that it makes any difference, you'll all be made welcome up here, and there are a couple of nice easy sectors for when it all gets a bit too much as you approach retirement !
Not that it makes any difference, you'll all be made welcome up here, and there are a couple of nice easy sectors for when it all gets a bit too much as you approach retirement !
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Posting to Scottish
Are Scottish taking people at the moment? I am thinking of applying this year or next. I love the place and the folks are second to none.....I worked H and I for a spell, and the Fat Controller's comments make pleasant reading.....keep that up and there will be a competition for seats. You can have my seat at the Swanwick fishtank console in return.
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Scottish Inventions
Just thought I'd let you guys at Manch know that we Scots invented everything from the Radar you use to the tarmac on the M6 heading northwards, and Man.Utd manager Sir Alex Ferguson! Oh and also The Bank Of England ,and The US Navy.
check the link below for an education excercise, LOL
http://www.magicdragon.com/Wallace/thingscot.html
check the link below for an education excercise, LOL
http://www.magicdragon.com/Wallace/thingscot.html