Is the SID/STAR on the flightstrip?
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Is the SID/STAR on the flightstrip?
Hello,
Just a quick question if I may please...?
On the flightstrip is the SID and STAR information contained?
Ie do they say
BPK6G BPK R123 CLN DCT LOGAN LAM3A
or
BPK R213 CLN DCT LOGAN
Thanks!
Just a quick question if I may please...?
On the flightstrip is the SID and STAR information contained?
Ie do they say
BPK6G BPK R123 CLN DCT LOGAN LAM3A
or
BPK R213 CLN DCT LOGAN
Thanks!
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As Hatsoff said, yes the SID and or STAR print on the strip usually we will see the SID or STAR print with plus symbols on either end. For Example the STAR for DTW may be:
+FWA MIZAR3 DTW+
+FWA VWV VWV051 POOFE DXO+
Mike
+FWA MIZAR3 DTW+
+FWA VWV VWV051 POOFE DXO+
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Point of clarification,
In the terminal environment, a departure strip MAY show the STAR at the destination airport, but often the route is long enough that the computer winds up printing only the DP, initial route, and destination airport, like this:
AUS +CWK088052..TNV..LFK+ .J101.EMG./.MEM
So the STAR at MEM would never show up unless the controller requested a Full Route from the FDIO keyboard. Something we wouldn't normally do...
Also be aware that only the controllers with access to the strip generated at Clearance Delivery would have THAT much. Often, the busier approach controls use few if any strips, and simply vector departures out the departure gate shown in the fix-pairing on the aircraft's tag.
At a Center, their strips are bigger and contain more data. However, if the pilot didn't FILE a STAR, it might not be assigned until approaching the destination airport, and therefore, not on any strip before then.
In the terminal environment, a departure strip MAY show the STAR at the destination airport, but often the route is long enough that the computer winds up printing only the DP, initial route, and destination airport, like this:
AUS +CWK088052..TNV..LFK+ .J101.EMG./.MEM
So the STAR at MEM would never show up unless the controller requested a Full Route from the FDIO keyboard. Something we wouldn't normally do...
Also be aware that only the controllers with access to the strip generated at Clearance Delivery would have THAT much. Often, the busier approach controls use few if any strips, and simply vector departures out the departure gate shown in the fix-pairing on the aircraft's tag.
At a Center, their strips are bigger and contain more data. However, if the pilot didn't FILE a STAR, it might not be assigned until approaching the destination airport, and therefore, not on any strip before then.
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Are we talking aerodrome or area? our strips have the initial routing but left to the atca/atco to confirm the right SID in conjunction with rwy in use and route chosen/level requested-ie WHI or ASNIP dep
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At Swanwick, SID's certainly aren't written on the strips, and its rare to get a strip with the STAR on it too, all we get is the Airway names, and only beacons if its a joining or leaving fix.
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Hello,
Thank you all for your replies, its much appriciated.
I was looking primarily at UK civil both Aerodrome and Area Control.
Thanks a lot again
R200EGNM!
Thank you all for your replies, its much appriciated.
I was looking primarily at UK civil both Aerodrome and Area Control.
Thanks a lot again
R200EGNM!