New EZY Alphanumeric c/s's
New EZY Alphanumeric c/s's
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They are not EASY to say once, let alone having to use them twice if we need to issue avoiding action !
However, like most changes we will get used to them, and find something else to moan about in the future......that's life in ATC.
However, like most changes we will get used to them, and find something else to moan about in the future......that's life in ATC.
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No real problems at all, but then I've been using them since we had things like DA B6ER flying
I must say though that I like EZY 2FM , sounds like my kinda of radio!
Rgds BEX
I must say though that I like EZY 2FM , sounds like my kinda of radio!
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They are rather a mouthful IMHO but as said previously I suppose we will get used to them.
I pity the aircrew who have to use them for the whole flight , at least I only have to use it for a few minutes
I pity the aircrew who have to use them for the whole flight , at least I only have to use it for a few minutes
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I think we adjusted to them much EASYier than you guys and gals did as at least we had them permanently displayed in front of us. The first couple of days were the worst as trying to get you to answer the second time was difficult, but normally by the third 
As has been said, we have seen many changes to callsigns over the years and gradually you'll get used to them. However I have already seen some potential 1261's with similarities to eliminate all possibilities of confusion.
EZY 1TV is the one I like, but nothing can ever beat the GB L05T we get everyday
As has been said, we have seen many changes to callsigns over the years and gradually you'll get used to them. However I have already seen some potential 1261's with similarities to eliminate all possibilities of confusion.
EZY 1TV is the one I like, but nothing can ever beat the GB L05T we get everyday
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Hate em!!!! Cant say them at all, especially when working 2 at the same time with virtually the same callsign. But like everything else will be used to them in 6 months, just in time for them to change again! 
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ghost-rider talks about confusion but I guess he might also mean dangerous. Callsigns that need extra concentration just to say correctly take time away from doing the important stuff.
Does anyone do a trial of these callsigns (on a sim) before they're introduced?
Does anyone do a trial of these callsigns (on a sim) before they're introduced?
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Some of them are a bit of a mouthful but as some have said, we'll get use to them, probably sooner than the crews! 
They must be better than having EZY235, 253, 325 on the freq at the same time!?
They must be better than having EZY235, 253, 325 on the freq at the same time!?
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For the record, I think they could be a potential hazard ! They are causing absolute pandemonium with us and the airports, and the RPL alphanumerics don't always match what our scheduales say it should be !
This makes the crews life a whole ball of fun !
And how about this one ... EZY4VV ! It is actually "Four Victor Victor" but surely that would look like "Four Whiskey" on the radar label !
For the record, I think they could be a potential hazard ! They are causing absolute pandemonium with us and the airports, and the RPL alphanumerics don't always match what our scheduales say it should be !
This makes the crews life a whole ball of fun !
And how about this one ... EZY4VV ! It is actually "Four Victor Victor" but surely that would look like "Four Whiskey" on the radar label !
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Dump em and go for a system similar to BAL. You use less in the number sequence and hopefully not run out of those and stick a different letter on the end depending on whether the flight is in or outbound-it works for BAL and has done so for many years.
The present ones were only good until lots of operators started to jump on the bandwagon which they now have.
The present ones were only good until lots of operators started to jump on the bandwagon which they now have.
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no real probs for me so far - just seem to have so many ezy c/s's on freq at the same time these days!!
the ezy2FM - reminds me of shooz!
and yep - the BRT1TS made me laugh - i asked the crew if it was a permanent c/s as it caused some laughter on the ground - he seemed non-plussed - i guess they only had "1TS" diplayed on the flight deck!
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the ezy2FM - reminds me of shooz!
and yep - the BRT1TS made me laugh - i asked the crew if it was a permanent c/s as it caused some laughter on the ground - he seemed non-plussed - i guess they only had "1TS" diplayed on the flight deck!
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Is there a logic behind how they are allocated? We've been trying to work it but The Times crossword is easier!
Personally, I'm not bothered. Better than some of the very similar ones you use to have in the past but we had one of your chaps in our tower the other day who was obviously very against it.
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Is there a logic behind how they are allocated? We've been trying to work it but The Times crossword is easier!
Personally, I'm not bothered. Better than some of the very similar ones you use to have in the past but we had one of your chaps in our tower the other day who was obviously very against it.
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Ha ! I wish !
One of our Capt's was given the task of compiling the alpha-numerics. I believe he used some sort of cyphering/encrypting program.
Allegedly the CIA are now interested in purchasing it !
As you correctly sussed, they bear absolutely no logic as per routes at all ! This was apparantly intentional !
Is there a logic behind how they are allocated?
Ha ! I wish !
One of our Capt's was given the task of compiling the alpha-numerics. I believe he used some sort of cyphering/encrypting program.
Allegedly the CIA are now interested in purchasing it !
As you correctly sussed, they bear absolutely no logic as per routes at all ! This was apparantly intentional !
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Only if you can guarantee a full set of callsigns which could not possibly run to confusion issues. I say this because BA use some 4 figure callsigns for LGW over the ocean, and for the old Flyer flights and they haven't thought one bit about them, and to begin with regularly were filed against to get them changed, but most still remain.
Unfortunately most flight numbers are consecutive for more than once a day flights, or return trips, and alas will occasionally be in a confusion situation.
Unfortunately most flight numbers are consecutive for more than once a day flights, or return trips, and alas will occasionally be in a confusion situation.
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I guess there can be no guarantees as i understand some of the ezy flt nos conflicted with other operators as well as ezy.Personally i would have thought the logical thing to do would be to ammend the offending callsigns and leave the rest as is.But our chief pilot knows better.