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Now I have been doing some homework for myself, and I have discovered that here in Norway the expression "radar heading" is not to be used anymore. This was former a fairly commonly used expression (and some of the older controllers still use it), but it is not any more standard phraseology (at least not here in Norway).
All aeronautical telecommunications over here are based on ICAO'a Annex 10, Volume II (Aeronautical telecommunictions), and ICAO's Doc 4444 PANS RAC / PANS ATM - and the latest edition released in Norway was published December 12th 2002, so they should be fairly up to date, but of course, there might still be other contries using this phraseology, but it is not international standard.
All aeronautical telecommunications over here are based on ICAO'a Annex 10, Volume II (Aeronautical telecommunictions), and ICAO's Doc 4444 PANS RAC / PANS ATM - and the latest edition released in Norway was published December 12th 2002, so they should be fairly up to date, but of course, there might still be other contries using this phraseology, but it is not international standard.
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Radarcontrol- perhaps you should re-read the entire thread before you make a bigger fool of yourself. Why should controllers say 'radar heading'? It is a superfluous word. It is the use of this phrase that is slack, not the other way around. This thread was started by a confused pilot, so maybe you guys ought to have a think about some of the procedures you are using and the lack of standardisation. It seems it has even spread to your MATS! This is a classic example of a latent failure, just waiting for the right set of circumstances to come along and bite you.
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Here is where the confusion starts:
CAP 493 Manual of Air Traffic Services Part 1
E(Attach)Page 10 - Phraseology (31 July 2002,Amdt 54)
Under Vectoring
Continue present heading.
Continue present heading and report that heading.
Continue heading (three digits).
Turn left/right heading (three digits).
Turn left/right (number)degrees and report heading.
Fly heading (three digits).
Stop turn heading (three digits).
Continue turn heading (three digits).
Leave (significant point)heading (three digits).
crossing left to right/right to left indicating above/below/similar
height,if not sighted turn left/right heading (three digits).
heading (three digits)traffic at (number)o ’clock (distance)miles
opposite direction/crossing left to right/right to left (level
information).
........no mention of the word RADAR in front of heading.
HOWEVER:
Transfer on a Heading
Report radar heading to (ATCU callsign) (Frequency)
As I understand it - the word RADAR was deleted as it was seen to be superfluous some years ago. The MATS Pt1 seems not to have been updated correctly.
From my experience, it is the older ATCO's who were taught it and still use it - but the younger ATCO's don't.
Is Bernoulli (the absolute authority from the College of ATC) able to confirm my hunch??
For the record - I DON'T say "radar heading"!
CAP 493 Manual of Air Traffic Services Part 1
E(Attach)Page 10 - Phraseology (31 July 2002,Amdt 54)
Under Vectoring
Continue present heading.
Continue present heading and report that heading.
Continue heading (three digits).
Turn left/right heading (three digits).
Turn left/right (number)degrees and report heading.
Fly heading (three digits).
Stop turn heading (three digits).
Continue turn heading (three digits).
Leave (significant point)heading (three digits).
crossing left to right/right to left indicating above/below/similar
height,if not sighted turn left/right heading (three digits).
heading (three digits)traffic at (number)o ’clock (distance)miles
opposite direction/crossing left to right/right to left (level
information).
........no mention of the word RADAR in front of heading.
HOWEVER:
Transfer on a Heading
Report radar heading to (ATCU callsign) (Frequency)
As I understand it - the word RADAR was deleted as it was seen to be superfluous some years ago. The MATS Pt1 seems not to have been updated correctly.
From my experience, it is the older ATCO's who were taught it and still use it - but the younger ATCO's don't.
Is Bernoulli (the absolute authority from the College of ATC) able to confirm my hunch??
For the record - I DON'T say "radar heading"!
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Gosh, what a lot of emotion about one little word.
Although simply using the word "heading" has usually been sufficient, I've used the phrase "radar heading" on occasions over the past twenty years, just to emphasize that the heading is indeed one assigned by the radar controller (ie, me). And do you know what? Not once has slipping the 'R' word into a transmission caused the slightest bit of confusion.
All that time and I didn't know I was doing it wrong. I hope no one tells my LCE...
Although simply using the word "heading" has usually been sufficient, I've used the phrase "radar heading" on occasions over the past twenty years, just to emphasize that the heading is indeed one assigned by the radar controller (ie, me). And do you know what? Not once has slipping the 'R' word into a transmission caused the slightest bit of confusion.
All that time and I didn't know I was doing it wrong. I hope no one tells my LCE...
