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View Poll Results: IS OPM really necassary?
Yes, OPM is the way forward
10
13.70%
Not sure but willing to give it a try
12
16.44%
OPM is just another management monitoring tool
24
32.88%
No, things worked well before, if it isn't broken don't fix it
27
36.99%
Voters: 73. This poll is closed

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Old 15th Mar 2003, 02:02
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2lo4zero;

Interesting what you say about the pref sets. It's the same thing that the FAA told us. It was a LIE! They didn't want to spend the money. Our system is an off shoot of yours. We started it <G>, and then decided that it wasn't going to do what we wanted or needed it to do and only took parts of it. You went with a slightly modified, but basicly the same system from LMART as we did... I bet that it wouldn't very difficult for LMART to use just about the same code for pref sets in your system that they used in ours.... Now, the coding for what does what would be very different in that our Machine / Human interface is much differnt than yours now. Our screens also look quite a bit different.

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Old 15th Mar 2003, 19:02
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Uuuumm, 055166k.
Don't think 2lo was intending to suggest that ATCO's were dishonest, merely that NATS have been bludgeoned into providing independently verifiable data. Looks like the pilots have been lucky and escaped so far!
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Old 17th Mar 2003, 20:37
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You went with a slightly modified, but basicly the same system from LMART as we did... I bet that it wouldn't very difficult for LMART to use just about the same code for pref sets in your system that they used in ours....
Sorry Scott - but you are a bit off the mark with your comment.

The MMI component of NERC was developed and written in the UK by Thales (was Thomson was Siemans was Plessey). So the DSR code changes to to preferences would be useless at NERC.
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Old 30th Mar 2003, 03:32
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Hi NERC Dweller;

I'll take your word for it, but it isn't what I was told by a LMART person who worked on the project before it was turned over to the controllers...

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