Mode S outside Class A
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Mode S outside Class A
I am struggling to understand the benefit of equipping the plane I fly with a Mode S transponder. (and spending the best part of 5 grand)
I fly from a Class D field, through Class G, E, D and occasionally SVFR into Class A. I realise that having a Mode C transponder will give potentially useful information to anything equipped with TCAS, whether the Boeing 3,000 feet above me, and in theory the Tornado coming up my a**e, or the chartered KingAir at 12 o'clock on reciprocal heading (thanks RIS) . And I always turn on the transponder, set to Mode C.
But there are not that many TCAS equipped planes flying around in Class G (or VFR in D) . And I don't think we will see many fitted in the future in a Cherokee or a 172.
Are ATC Units going to get some huge benefit that I can't see from me having a Mode S transponder in 2008, whether I fly past their boundary, or request a crossing / inbound?
I can't quite see it myself.
I fly from a Class D field, through Class G, E, D and occasionally SVFR into Class A. I realise that having a Mode C transponder will give potentially useful information to anything equipped with TCAS, whether the Boeing 3,000 feet above me, and in theory the Tornado coming up my a**e, or the chartered KingAir at 12 o'clock on reciprocal heading (thanks RIS) . And I always turn on the transponder, set to Mode C.
But there are not that many TCAS equipped planes flying around in Class G (or VFR in D) . And I don't think we will see many fitted in the future in a Cherokee or a 172.
Are ATC Units going to get some huge benefit that I can't see from me having a Mode S transponder in 2008, whether I fly past their boundary, or request a crossing / inbound?
I can't quite see it myself.
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Don't know how densely populated your airspace is or whether the ground sensors are Mode S or ATCBI but when traffic density gets to a certain point the ground sensor can't handle all the target replys and correlate them with primary returns and pass athis data to the ATC facility to be used to make the display for ATC to look at to separate you. If things get a little bad it is just a time lag. If it gets more bad the targets can coast or start just giving up trying to correlate everything. The worst case the tracks are dropped and the data is dropped and the screen goes blank.
That said, it is very difficult to make a light GA operator spend that kind of money on a Mode S transponder unless he needed a new one anyway. Check with AOPA, they have a very decided opinion.
I believe the TCAS/ACAS will give you better RAs with Mode S in the other fellows A/C and will get a better RA on you if you have Mode S too.
That said, it is very difficult to make a light GA operator spend that kind of money on a Mode S transponder unless he needed a new one anyway. Check with AOPA, they have a very decided opinion.
I believe the TCAS/ACAS will give you better RAs with Mode S in the other fellows A/C and will get a better RA on you if you have Mode S too.
