Airport Fire Cover
I don't think they pay at all, except of course through normal business rates.
On rare occasions a local authority appliance and crew can be brought in to augment the AFS to upgrade the Aerodrome Category temporarily but this is premeditated, not an emergency response; in this case the seconded appliance becomes part of the AFS. Presumably this can be on a repayment basis.
On rare occasions a local authority appliance and crew can be brought in to augment the AFS to upgrade the Aerodrome Category temporarily but this is premeditated, not an emergency response; in this case the seconded appliance becomes part of the AFS. Presumably this can be on a repayment basis.
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Here, the main reason for the local fire service attending during an emergency, is to provide additional water.
Foam a plenty for a few minutes, then the airport tenders need water to mix, creating foam. Local fire service send pressurised water tenders to provide additional water supplies whilst the airport fire service replenishes locally. One must assume that this has been provided, but the terms of the aerodrome licence means that the local fire service need only to provide a certain local response, any additional is in excess of the CAA minima.
Additional staffing and liasion with the the local emergency services are also provided by the town service.
Foam a plenty for a few minutes, then the airport tenders need water to mix, creating foam. Local fire service send pressurised water tenders to provide additional water supplies whilst the airport fire service replenishes locally. One must assume that this has been provided, but the terms of the aerodrome licence means that the local fire service need only to provide a certain local response, any additional is in excess of the CAA minima.
Additional staffing and liasion with the the local emergency services are also provided by the town service.
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Controller Friendly - you should choose your friends and your words more carefully, the retained fire service are not on strike, never have been, and it's very unlikely that they ever will be.
These guys don't do the retained job for the money - less than 50p an hour for being on call, but they face the same risks as the full time brigade members who can't seem to accept that until they are employed by private enterprise, they will not be in a position to negotiate a pay rise which is above the public sector norm'.
Get back to us when you have something sensible to say, rather than the rantings of a neanderthol.
These guys don't do the retained job for the money - less than 50p an hour for being on call, but they face the same risks as the full time brigade members who can't seem to accept that until they are employed by private enterprise, they will not be in a position to negotiate a pay rise which is above the public sector norm'.
Get back to us when you have something sensible to say, rather than the rantings of a neanderthol.
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HEW & NIKNAK
APOLOGY NOW PLEASE! I come from a part of the country where retained firefighters are most definately on strike. I can say this with authority because I am MARRIED TO ONE! And count many others as good friends. The RFU are not on strike but as 90% of retained firefighters are in the FBU, they are, therefore, on strike!!
As many of the appliances that attend our airfield are retained ones, when the strike is on we also have no back up cover apart from what I already mentioned.
So don't slag me off unless you are sure of your facts. And NIK, completely uncalled for to be so insulting.
APOLOGY NOW PLEASE! I come from a part of the country where retained firefighters are most definately on strike. I can say this with authority because I am MARRIED TO ONE! And count many others as good friends. The RFU are not on strike but as 90% of retained firefighters are in the FBU, they are, therefore, on strike!!
As many of the appliances that attend our airfield are retained ones, when the strike is on we also have no back up cover apart from what I already mentioned.
So don't slag me off unless you are sure of your facts. And NIK, completely uncalled for to be so insulting.
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"I come from a part of the country" probably says it all. In general, national, terms you are totally incorrect but I can't be bothered to continue with you. Red caution at the bottom of the page?
30W - you too are totally incorrect about aerodrome licensing. In respect of your 13/11 posting about aerodromes becoming unlicensed, how many did become so during the recent strike? Red words apply to you too?
30W - you too are totally incorrect about aerodrome licensing. In respect of your 13/11 posting about aerodromes becoming unlicensed, how many did become so during the recent strike? Red words apply to you too?
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All the Retained Firemen I know are not on strike and not members of the FBU but I don't know about nationally. Certainly in this county there aren't any retained Fire Stations on strike.
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Hew
Can't be bothered well I can!
FACT: 18000 Retained Firefighters in the UK
FACT: 16000 FBU Members....and growing!
FACT: Remaining 2000 approx RFU Members and non union Members.
FACT: One thing the strike has achieved is strengthen the FBU and increased its membership.
Don't believe me cause obviously you won't, check out www.fbu.org.uk
Hew(Brew, Barney Magrew.......) are you sure you're not the leader of the RFU in disguise.......?
Regards
cf
Can't be bothered well I can!
FACT: 18000 Retained Firefighters in the UK
FACT: 16000 FBU Members....and growing!
FACT: Remaining 2000 approx RFU Members and non union Members.
FACT: One thing the strike has achieved is strengthen the FBU and increased its membership.
Don't believe me cause obviously you won't, check out www.fbu.org.uk
Hew(Brew, Barney Magrew.......) are you sure you're not the leader of the RFU in disguise.......?
Regards
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Are the BAA firemen / security / TGWU members still going out next Thursday? What will happen here, as the TGWU strike coincides with the planned FBU one.
Going to be a quiet day I think.
And
What will happen if an oil drum fire at a picket line gets out of control?
Only one of the above is a serious question.
Going to be a quiet day I think.
And
What will happen if an oil drum fire at a picket line gets out of control?
Only one of the above is a serious question.
If the AFS goes on strike at any Airport, public transport flights have to be suspended - Manchester was one example - back in the 80s. Some cargo and private flights might be able to continue to operate from such affected Airports. As has been mentioned before, the Airport Fire category is not dependant on the outside fire service. In this (legal) respect, the coinciding of both Airport and FBU strikes is academic - but permitted operators would obviously be wise to consider the additional potential risk of flying to/from an Airport where the only available fire cover was provided by the thinly spread military. My guess is that Airport Authorities (The BAA on this occasion) may also consider closing their Airports to all flights, due to the prevailing circumstances.
