Multiple instructions?
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That wouldn't generally happen in the UK; we shouldn't include instructions that require a readback along with a transfer of communication. The ATCO should give the instruction, the flight crew then read it back, and then the transfer of communication to another frequency.
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Gonzo, that definitely is used in London TMA - as long as the speed part is not being used for separation then its allowed...
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Would/could a controller normally tell you to reduce speed and hand you off in the same sentence?
Added context from when I was doing and then managing a LOSA at my company, the data shows that at three instructions in one call, the vast majority of pilots will make an error, something along the lines of mixing the heading for an altitude or speed for a heading.
To the original question: no it’s not normal, but it’s not unheard of.
UK: CAP413 2.59 (my emphasis):
It’s a should, not a shall. In practice, you’d generally try and avoid doing it, however it comes down to personal judgement for a given time and situation. If you did it routinely I’d see it as bad technique; if you pick your moments and pilots when it’s particularly busy, it can help.
UK: CAP413 2.59 (my emphasis):
Transfer of communication messages should be passed in a single message. Items which require a readback should normally be passed in a separate transmission before transfer.
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