Five-letter designations; KUXEM, LAMIX etc. How are these arrived at today ?
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The RNAV/GPS 16 approach to KPSM (Portsmouth, New Hampshire) has waypoints named ITAWT -> ITAWA -> PUDYE -> TTATT, and the missed approach procedure has a hold at IDEED.
(hint: Warner Brothers cartoons featuring Tweety Bird and Sylvester the Cat.)
(hint: Warner Brothers cartoons featuring Tweety Bird and Sylvester the Cat.)
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Some of these American ones look almost unpronounceable. How does a non-native English speaker cope ? At least the likes of GOLES and GASKO are fairly obvious.
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To an English speaker, it reads as ‘goals’. But it isn’t an English word, and it should be spoken with two syllables (as many non-UK aircrew do).
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They are called 'five letter pronouncables', and when you apply for some the regulator offers you a list to pick from.....you can replicate other ones, but usually only if they are in a different continent.
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Tks Hersham; I was just about to say exactly that. My spell in ATC ops included some time spent in deciding these names wrt new routes. The problem with duplication manifests itself when you clear a guy direct to XXXXX and he shoots off to the other XXXXX you did not know about, but which suited him, without saying anything, and generating conflict.
So who remembers reporting over 'One hundred Echo' back in the 70s ?
So who remembers reporting over 'One hundred Echo' back in the 70s ?
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Some 10-15 years ago there were big changes in our airspace.
Among other problems the name for points was big. There were no available options.
For some trial OPS team uses our names for poimts- and we get KUZMA .
I was proud to be on maps.
Later on,management said no to names of live atcos...
I was rather too young to die for such honour.
Among other problems the name for points was big. There were no available options.
For some trial OPS team uses our names for poimts- and we get KUZMA .
I was proud to be on maps.
Later on,management said no to names of live atcos...
I was rather too young to die for such honour.
How about the Admirals on the UK FIR Southern boundary?
HARDY, NELSO, DRAKE, BENBO-prob some more I can’t recall.
UVAVU, in the Yorkshire Dales, reputedly close to where Vic Reeves/Jim Moir lived.
LESTA, PIGOT, ABBOT,ADNAM…..
Or the kids comics?
BEENO, DANDI, WIZZA…
If you get really bored in the cruise, try ‘rude word waypoint bingo’. You might be surprised what is out there!
HARDY, NELSO, DRAKE, BENBO-prob some more I can’t recall.
UVAVU, in the Yorkshire Dales, reputedly close to where Vic Reeves/Jim Moir lived.
LESTA, PIGOT, ABBOT,ADNAM…..
Or the kids comics?
BEENO, DANDI, WIZZA…
If you get really bored in the cruise, try ‘rude word waypoint bingo’. You might be surprised what is out there!
Overheard on Maastricht:
’American 123, direct KOK’
’OK, direct KOK. You really got a waypoint called KOK?’
’Yep, we got one called DIK as well!’
’American 123, direct KOK’
’OK, direct KOK. You really got a waypoint called KOK?’
’Yep, we got one called DIK as well!’
short flights long nights
I don’t know if they are still there, and I can’t remember how they were spelt… but across central Australia was ( and the spelling is not correct).. Putya Sweet Lipss Tooda Phone, or something like that.
A good few years ago -must have been as I was on British Midland going to Newcastle or Manchester the young sounding FO said it was nice clear day and our route would take us over North London and then the town of Trent in the Midlands . There isnt a place called TRENT but there was/is a waypoint of that name no doubt somewhere along th river Trent. Good thing he wasnt on a trip with some of the more colourful 'virtual' locations described here
NIBOG is off the coast of Norn Iron. Though it’s not very boggy at the mo.
I’d been flying “Plimmer” departures from ATL for a couple of years before I put Par 2 and 2 together and “Palmer”. 🤦🏻
I’d been flying “Plimmer” departures from ATL for a couple of years before I put Par 2 and 2 together and “Palmer”. 🤦🏻
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I don't know if it is still in use but my favourite from a few years ago was MELEE to the West of Paris where in the region of 10 air routes converged.
The name conveyed what I hope never occurred.
The name conveyed what I hope never occurred.