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Becoming an Air Traffic Controller in Spain

Old 15th Nov 2021, 15:07
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Becoming an Air Traffic Controller in Spain

Hi,

My partner is Spanish and is looking into becoming an Air Traffic Controller in Spain. She is a native Spanish speaker and fluent in English.

I know FTEJerez do ATC training. Can anyone recommend other training facilities?

Also, would you recommend it as a career?

Cheers

MF
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Old 15th Nov 2021, 19:40
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It's better than working for a living ! Best job in the world.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 07:05
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Ah the old boys mantra who have not been in the “real” ATC world for a while now.

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Old 16th Nov 2021, 08:11
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You are correct, Nimmer. The “good old days” are long gone, & the profession has suffered somewhat; but I still believe that there is plenty about it to enable new recruits to “enjoy” their careers in much the same way as I & my contemporaries did.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 11:30
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About 10 or 12 years ago, a company at Cwmbran trained dozens of Spanish speaking people to become ATCOs, the result being a 'glut' and very few got jobs in the UK.
At the same time, FerroNats are operating a school in Spain and I believe they're still doing this as are Global ATS at Gloucester.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 11:54
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Got out of bed the wrong side this morning? Your sarcastic comment was completely out of order!
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 15:46
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The state owned ANSP in Spain is ENAIRE. They provide ATC services at the majority of airports.

The main non state ANSP is FerroNATS.

Careers information available on websites of both ANSPs and neither looking like they are currently recruiting.



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Old 17th Nov 2021, 07:14
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Originally Posted by Brian 48nav View Post
Nimmer

Got out of bed the wrong side this morning? Your sarcastic comment was completely out of order!
out of order or just a bit too close to the truth??
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 09:16
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Nimmer,

I see you are 53, the age I was when I got my 'early go'. I can assure you that time will fly by and you will become one of those retirees you appear to despise, as they are no longer in the 'real' world of ATC.

My son and his wife, who are both ATCOs at TC, agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments expressed by KCockayne - it's a great job and beats working for a living. Mind you I keep telling them they will never be 'real' controllers until they have validated at a busy airfield. I can't find the smiley emojis so the last sentence is what us old guys call humour - something that is sadly missing today.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 13:30
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A bit of a sweeping statement there. I don’t despise retirees, and I still think ATC has a lot to offer as a career.
However Kcockayne had it right in his second statement.
Anybody starting out into the world of ATC now, needs to enter with their eyes fully opened to the real challenges facing the controller in today’s world.

it most definitely not the job I started in 1991, and when I leave (17 months 12 days 10 hours and 30 mins) I will not be looking back through rose coloured spectacles.

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Old 17th Nov 2021, 13:43
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Trying to get back on thread, in discussions with potential recruits from Spain I have been left with the impression that despite all the qualifications they had gained, it was very much who you know that will get you an ATCO position. That may, of course, have changed post-pandemic.

Departing from thread again....the job is different now, with far more external factors impacting on your day to day task, many of which you would never have even considered when you first joined. Part of being an ATCO is flexibility and adaptation, and the ability to absorb new and evolving requirements. But at the end of the day, it is just work.
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Nimmer. It most definitely is not the job I started in 1971. That is most certainly a fact. I don’t know if I would be cut out to handle some of the aspects of the job, nowadays. My great reward is that I can look back through “rose coloured spectacles”, & know that I had the best possible career that I possibly could have had.
Boys. It was never “just a job” to me & many others. It was literally, the “best job in the world”. I am somewhat disappointed that the same does not apply to your perception of it; because you are missing out on what was my great good fortune. But, if you like it even half as much as I did, you are fortunate.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 19:15
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I acknowledge that for much of the time ATC doesn't feel like work. However, it does not harm to remind ourselves and our colleagues that it is paid employment, with all the negatives (and positives of course) that come with it. Many of us spend our working lives going the extra mile, only to find that the people who really call the shots....HR managers, finance managers, quality assurance managers and auditors, and the like....do not buy into our world.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 19:32
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Your comments are, unfortunately, all too true. Sadly, they would have been true in my day, also. I think that the difference is that we were able to bypass the management, & , we had a bit more autonomy, which isolated us from management to a degree. So, we were much more able to "do our own thing" (within the rules, of course). We were aided in this by having such a large number of ex WW2 personnel , who stood no nonsense. I wish you all well & know that you are all doing a very good job.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 20:05
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When I took the early go in 2002 it was because the service I joined was becoming "the company" and "the business" and being taken over by those identified by Hersham Boys.
For me, they were ruining the best job in the world, where we were a brotherhood with our European counterparts giving an excellent service to the public. I would always encourage anybody to aspire to be an ATCO but it ain't t the job it was.

​​​​​​Enuff said
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