EGNM. Leeds Bradford Airport Control Tower.
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EGNM. Leeds Bradford Airport Control Tower.
If anybody (outside Yorkshire) is interested the above-mentioned structure is fifty years old this year. Built as part of the new terminal, she was commissioned in the summer of 1967, about a year before the terminal was opened. In 1984, she received lots of new glass in the form of secondary glazing for the VCR and a new, 'glass wall' for the floor below (now the radar room). Apart from the glass and various internal configuration changes over the decades, she isn't that much different from fifty years ago. I hope she lasts another fifty years - we shall see.
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HD. Fifty years is just the age of the current tower. Its predecessor was built on top of either the old RAF Officers' mess or a hangar - I can't remember which. Either way there has been a licensed ATC service at EGNM since at least the 1950s. It would be good to see a book by a past ATC bod though.
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Fairoaks 'tower' is the original one built c1938.
Farnborough had a 'watch office' from c1922 until 1943 when it was replaced by a control tower, but this was found to be inadequate so was replaced 3 years later by another building a few feet away which lasted until 2002 (with a re-modelling-different VCR-in the late '50s), when it was replaced by the present building and the previous 2 were demolished. The original watch office remained in use as a marshallers hut untiil about 1995 when it too was demolished.
Farnborough had a 'watch office' from c1922 until 1943 when it was replaced by a control tower, but this was found to be inadequate so was replaced 3 years later by another building a few feet away which lasted until 2002 (with a re-modelling-different VCR-in the late '50s), when it was replaced by the present building and the previous 2 were demolished. The original watch office remained in use as a marshallers hut untiil about 1995 when it too was demolished.
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There are certainly plenty of vintage ATC towers still in everyday use. The ones at Barton and Carlisle, for example, are getting on a bit. But it's rare these days for a significant regional airport to be using a tower of such an age. I can think of the old RNAS building at Glasgow and the ex-RAF tower at Teesside. But airports such as Edinburgh, Newcastle, Bristol and East Midlands have gained new towers in the last five to ten years or so. Leeds Bradford's golden jubilee thing just keeps on going.
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From: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
I have a soft spot for EGNMZT, Mooncrest. During the early 1970s, in our spotting 'heyday' my cousin would deposit 2 of us at EGNM quite often. He travelled up to Leeds on business from Leicestershire and left us at the airport all day. Northeast Viscounts were the day's highlights, but we had fun playing 'Spot The Varsity', and watching the light a/c. Always enjoyed our days at Leeds.
fast forward many years later and having been posted to EGCC, did a liaison visit to said tower. It was being re-furbished and re-equipped and was a bit of a mess, ATC wise. Made to feel very welcome by a great team, in spite of all the friendly flack we often fired across The Pennines at you.
P.S. Do you like the early LPs by Steeleye Span?
fast forward many years later and having been posted to EGCC, did a liaison visit to said tower. It was being re-furbished and re-equipped and was a bit of a mess, ATC wise. Made to feel very welcome by a great team, in spite of all the friendly flack we often fired across The Pennines at you.
P.S. Do you like the early LPs by Steeleye Span?
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Zooker, we've had a similar discussion before. I know a handful of Steeleye Span songs - Mooncrest was their record label, along with Nazareth and The Hotshots. I think the label artwork inspired me !
As for EGNM, sadly I only work at the airport (airline ground ops) - I never got the breaks with ATC. But after twenty one years I wouldn't want to work anywhere else. I too have fond memories of Northeast, BIA, Air Anglia and so on. And the Vickers Varsity on the fire dump. As I said the Tower hasn't changed externally that much; last summer it was treated to a majorly-refurbished radar room. I've been in and it's rather splendid, albeit still using a Plessey Watchman. It works though, is 4G proof and has a new data processor so there's life in the old radar too, at half the age of the Tower !
As for EGNM, sadly I only work at the airport (airline ground ops) - I never got the breaks with ATC. But after twenty one years I wouldn't want to work anywhere else. I too have fond memories of Northeast, BIA, Air Anglia and so on. And the Vickers Varsity on the fire dump. As I said the Tower hasn't changed externally that much; last summer it was treated to a majorly-refurbished radar room. I've been in and it's rather splendid, albeit still using a Plessey Watchman. It works though, is 4G proof and has a new data processor so there's life in the old radar too, at half the age of the Tower !
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I should add that it is fifty years' uninterrupted service for the EGNM Tower, night curfews and Christmas Days notwithstanding. AFAIK, there have been no occasions in the last fifty years when ATC has had to temporarily relocate to another part of the airfield. If I've got this right, the tower has undergone significant internal refurbishment on no fewer than six occasions and the boys and girls have stayed put, along with brick dust, canteen tables, steep staircases etc.
Zooker, how did the Manchester folks manage circa 1991/92 when the VCR was replaced ? That must have been a huge logistical and technical undertaking.
Zooker, how did the Manchester folks manage circa 1991/92 when the VCR was replaced ? That must have been a huge logistical and technical undertaking.
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From: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
We moved to the 8th floor offices, while the 1960 VCR was removed and the new one was built. Initially, we didn't think it would work, but it did....... Air and GMC sitting 50' apart and using CCTV to see what the other was doing! We didn't want to leave it in the end. If you do FB, send me a friend request.
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We moved to the 8th floor offices, while the 1960 VCR was removed and the new one was built. Initially, we didn't think it would work, but it did....... Air and GMC sitting 50' apart and using CCTV to see what the other was doing! We didn't want to leave it in the end. If you do FB, send me a friend request.
BTW, thankyou for the FB suggestion but I don't use it so I can't join you on there.
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I got my first look at ATC there in the mid 80s when Dave Edmondson (Adrian's dad) was there. His brother was a teacher of mine and put us in touch. The rest, as they say, is history.
I too spent some time on the hill watching and was there when the Tristar went off-roading.
I too spent some time on the hill watching and was there when the Tristar went off-roading.
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I think you're right Zooker. They were built to last back then.
As I said earlier, I hope the LBA Tower lasts for a good long time yet. It's a quite distinctive building and deserves to be around for a while yet. I suppose it could potentially be under threat from any plan to demolish the existing terminal (of which the Tower is a part) and airport development generally. For obvious reasons, any successor had better not be too tall (unless Ground Radar finally arrives).
As I said earlier, I hope the LBA Tower lasts for a good long time yet. It's a quite distinctive building and deserves to be around for a while yet. I suppose it could potentially be under threat from any plan to demolish the existing terminal (of which the Tower is a part) and airport development generally. For obvious reasons, any successor had better not be too tall (unless Ground Radar finally arrives).
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From: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
I'm sure you'll end up with a shiny brand-new 'Remote Tower Mast', and the opportunity to re-locate to the shiny brand-new 'Remote Tower Centre', which will serve all aerodromes in the re-designed NTCA.
Plenty of room for such a facility at EGPX.
Plenty of room for such a facility at EGPX.