Update on vacancies

[ZOOKER]

Bournemouth sounds nice, good egg........Enjoyed my time there immensely.

Unless, of course, you need help developing the 'digital option'?

Scotland's nice too.

[Liobian]

B48 - Ray's still out here, monitoring 21 Course ! I moved to Stornoway from Tiree, having replaced J Brough there. JB went to and retired from Aberdeen. My move occurred when the ATCO/Mgr was replaced by AFISO firefighters.
Geoff G was at Kirkwall during our H&I sojourns, and also retired from Aberdeen - now living happily in Cyprus.
After Stornoway, which I regard as my formative years,I ended up at ScACC and took early out around 9 years ago.

[5'n'3]

EMA Vacancies

ADI only vacancy available at East Mids, Possibly looking for ADI&APS as well ?

here's the link..

https://career5.successfactors.eu/ca...20RJ2llDPDo%3d

[spekesoftly]

From the EMA advert:-

East Midlands Airport handles over 4.6 million passengers per year and is the UK’s number one pure freight airport.

I don't understand how EMA can descibe itself as a "pure freight airport" when it also handles over 4.6 million passengers per year.

Pax = SLF (Self Loading Freight) ??

[Doody2007]

Pure freight means freight carried by a cargo only aircraft. Hence why EMA is number one for pure freight even though LHR carries more tonnage per year. The difference is the LHR freight is belly cargo on pax flights whilst EMA's freight is on a pure cargo aircraft.

[spekesoftly]

OK thanks

[hangten]

I don't understand how EMA can descibe itself as a "pure freight airport" when it also handles over 4.6 million passengers per year.

I agree that this is not a very clear statement but as mentioned what they mean is that EGNX is the biggest airport in the country for aircraft that are purely carrying freight.

In fact Heathrow is also the biggest port in the country by value of goods, bigger even than any of the shipping ports despite the obvious difference in tonnage.

Jan 18 cargo statistics for UK airports can be found here:

https://www.caa.co.uk/uploadedFiles/...figuration.pdf

And if you're a nerd like me and just like statistics the CAA publishes lots every month, here:

https://www.caa.co.uk/Data-and-analy...-airport-data/

Perfect for a snowy day read.

[BigDaddyBoxMeal]

Originally Posted by 5'n'3

ADI only vacancy available at East Mids, Possibly looking for ADI&APS as well ?

Why ADI only I wonder?

[alfaman]

^why ADI only?^ - might be they feel they're restricting themselves too much & they're prepared to train APS when the time comes?

[chevvron]

I understand from another forum that Shoreham have had 5 controllers leave recently and are desperately short to the extent they will have to close for several days in March and will be unable to offer iaps until June.

[Cleared For A Coffee]

Southend

https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...thend-airport/

[Roadrunner Once]

Out of interest, can anyone say at which non-NATS units Prospect do the negotiating for T&Cs?

[LXGB]

Prospect ATCOs’ Branch currently support members at:

Aberdeen Aberporth Alderney Battersea Belfast Belfast City Biggin Hill Birmingham Blackpool Bournemouth Bristol Cambridge Cardiff Carlisle Coventry Doncaster Durham East Midlands Edinburgh Exeter Farnborough Gatwick Gibraltar Glasgow Gloucester Guernsey Heathrow Humberside Inverness Isle of Man Jersey Leeds Liverpool London Area Control Centre London Terminal Control Centre London City Luton Lydd Manchester NATS Corporate and Technical Centre NATS Training Newcastle Newquay Norwich Oxford Prestwick Centre Scilly Isles Shoreham Southampton Southend Stansted Warton Wattisham

[Roadrunner Once]

Thanks, but that's not quite what I was asking. There may be individual Prospect members at all of those units, but at which ones does Prospect do the negotiating? It's not the same thing.

[chevvron]

Years ago, ATCOs at some non NATS units (eg Southampton before it became NATS, Dunsfold too I think) were members of T & GWU.
Some NATS controllers left Prospect or rather its predecessors (IPCS then IPMS) when they were required to strike due to a dispute which had nothing to do with NATS (it was purely civil service)

[ZOOKER]

It seems very strange that the Prospect ATCO's Branch Chairman is a 'Supervisor' at the largest NATS unit. Surely a 'Supervisor' is a management role?

How can a Band 5 NATS Manager properly represent the views of working ATCOs at such locations as Carlisle, The Scilly Isles, Newquay, Oxford and Shoreham, to name but a few?

Surely there is a 'conflict of interest' here?

[obwan]

Zooker, nothing new; Prospect has only ever represented the views of Swanwick, EGLL and EGKK, not sure about EGKK now.

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by ZOOKER

It seems very strange that the Prospect ATCO's Branch Chairman is a 'Supervisor' at the largest NATS unit. Surely a 'Supervisor' is a management role?

How can a Band 5 NATS Manager properly represent the views of working ATCOs at such locations as Carlisle, The Scilly Isles, Newquay, Oxford and Shoreham, to name but a few?

Surely there is a 'conflict of interest' here?

And there I was thinking there was a whole organisation behind Prospect, with salaried national officers and various committees, and of course the unit reps and watch reps.

If the whole of ATCO’s Branch is being run by one person, he must be very busy!

By the same token, do you think a Scilly Isles ATCO could ‘properly represent the views’ of working ATCOs at such locations as Swanwick and Heathrow?

[ZOOKER]

I never said it was being run by one person Gonzo.

[1985]

I don't think it matters whether hes a NATS band 5 manager if he listens to the reps of those units and represents them on their views/needs/wants. That's the whole point of having unit reps. Lots of unions delegate negotiations to designated people.

Whether having a NATS manager representing NATS Atcos maybe a whole different issue...