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Old 11th Apr 2013, 22:22
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IAA ATC jobs x24

See website great opportunities for a career , good luck !
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Old 12th Apr 2013, 12:03
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Read Terms and Conditions.

https://www.iaa.ie/media/Recruitment...pril20131.docx


Be sure you understand what is on offer.

No payment will be made to Students while undergoing training.
If you successfully complete the Programme, including attainment of an ICAO rating (licence) you may be offered appointment as an Air Traffic Controller.
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Old 12th Apr 2013, 12:26
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If you successfully complete the Programme, including attainment of an ICAO rating (licence) you may be offered appointment as an Air Traffic Controller.
That is written in Irish! It could mean that despite completing training, you might or might not be offered employment. Or it could mean that having obtained a licence, that then permits the Authority to make the offer of employment. Apart from that, the IAA is rather limiting its options by not paying trainees for the two years.

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Old 12th Apr 2013, 16:19
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Be very clear: it means that if you get through, they may or may not offer you a job.

Over 4000 people applied last time, when they were offering 18k in training, and 50k on check out.

Now it is Zero pay in training, and then 32k in year 1.
7 year bond or else repayment of up to 190k.

I would be surprised if they got more than 2000 applicants, a lot of prospective applicants simply wont be able to afford to take the chance of going through the training course.

pay peanuts ...

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Old 13th Apr 2013, 03:17
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Applicants who attain a high enough position in the Paper and Pencil Aptitude Test will be called to a Computer Based Aptitude Test (FEAST). Applicants who previously sat the test in the last two years will be precluded from re-sitting, and will be evaluated on their previous test results.
I failed FEAST (with NATS) in Jan 2013 ... does this quote from the Recruitment Information mean I would automatically fail at this stage of the IAA ATC selection process? Thanks
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Old 14th Apr 2013, 08:48
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4takeoff,

Don't let that put you off applying. As long as you know why you failed FEAST first time, put that to use and do better! You will possibly have to inform the IAA in your application, that you previously failed with NATS, however, as far as I know, there is no cross "pollination" of information between NATS and the IAA, they are two independant organisations, in different jurisdictions. So good luck

Anyone else with opinions, please chime in and help here

Rocky

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Old 15th Apr 2013, 09:45
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Having just moved over the border from Northern Ireland, I was really hoping to apply.

I applied the last time it was advertised and placed 33rd at the penultimate stage where they trimmed the numbers to 31. Needless to say, I was hoping to improve.

I just can't afford to take 2 years without a salary. My wife could have coped with a reduction, but not an obliteration of salary.

I think my dreams of being an ATCO are at an end.


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Old 19th Apr 2013, 16:20
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Applied

Did anyone else apply hoping that the "no allowance for training" line was a lie or a mistake? Missed the last round of applications and was so annoyed I went straight to NATS but only got to stage 2. I'm really hoping that there was a screw-up with the factsheet.
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Old 19th Apr 2013, 18:08
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If you believe they made a "mistake" you can email
Frank Devlin
Human Resources Directorate
Irish Aviation Authority
The Times Building
11-12 D'Olier Street
Dublin 2

Tel: + 353 1 6031535
Fax: + 353 1 6770592
Email: [email protected]

and ask for clarification.

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Old 20th Apr 2013, 13:27
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iaa management don't make mistakes. baffling decisions, yes, but always deliberate so no, not a mistake.
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Old 20th Apr 2013, 14:27
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If IAA manage to fill the posts with no training salary, do not be surprised if Nats follow suit. A previous chief exec at Nats had questioned why they were paying people to study when a airline pilots on the whole pay for their licence.
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Old 23rd Apr 2013, 05:47
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Ah, it's good to see that Spain is once again at the tip of the spear of innovation...
Untill 2010 the trainees at Senasa got 80 /month if they were from Madrid and 400 if they were from outside... this is basically "not paid".
And from 2010 onwards trainees at Senasa have to pay 50.000 for the basic tower course... but don't tell that Nats or the IAA, they might wish to follow through on that
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Old 23rd Apr 2013, 15:22
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What are my chances??

Closing date for this is Thursday @ 12, and I'm still weighing up whether or not I should apply.

The big problem I have is that I am a previous student from one of the earlier intakes, unfortunately for me I failed and was cut from the team.

Although I f**ked up the training, I really thought it was a brilliant job. So here I am again, thinking should I apply or not.

Any of you guys got any idea what the IAA would think about a past student looking for another chance at the course???
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Old 23rd Apr 2013, 16:06
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Time to make a stand!

Dear would be ATC folk,

Please don't go down the same road as Commercial Pilots, who over the years have had to pay for their entire licence, then Type ratings and now line training

You still have a chance to stop this from happening within your specialism.

If no one applies (or very few apply), they will have to change their terms, that is the only way to tackle this before it becomes a pay for training scheme!!

Take action NOW.
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Old 23rd Apr 2013, 17:28
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Passepartout1

Just curious,

Were you actually in training when you

failed and was cut from the team.
If so why were you cut?

And what stage did you reach?

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Old 23rd Apr 2013, 17:33
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What are my chances??
check your pm s.
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Old 23rd Apr 2013, 19:43
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Beer hunter post 10 - would that be decisions based on ignorance or stupidity?
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Old 23rd Apr 2013, 22:08
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if there's a way to mash "oblivious" with "wilful ignorance" you can alert the folk what edit the dictionaries.
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Old 29th Apr 2013, 19:17
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Hi everyone, has anyone who applied heard anything back yet? I applied but during the first few days where the website said you get paid during training however this now seems not to be the case. Don't even think I would bother going for interview now as this is a deal breaker for me, anybody else in a similar situation?
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Old 7th May 2013, 16:16
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Yeah I got the invite for the exam next week. Still undecided about even trying though with the allowance being scrapped. Couldn't afford to do it unless I win some cash fast
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