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It's not a promise but their electoral manifesto. But, oh, your friends told you that? I am sorry, I didn't know, then, obviously, you are right, they need to privatise the air traffic control in Spain to pay our medicines. Not the airport services, but the air traffic control. Thanks very much for clearing things up, and if you or your friends have some more info about this issue, please, don't hesitate in telling us.
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When there are public services being reduced to the minimum, public sector workers not being paid and the Spanish economy in dire straights, do you really think the electorate will care for attitudes such as yours?
I detect that you are possibly one of the ATCOs who will be most affected by the proposed change i.e. You are not in a position to take early retirement and the generous severence package which goes with it. Or indeed, the offer of early retirement, the package and to return to work as an OJTI on a contract basis paying around 500 euro per day?
The facts are that FerroNats and SAerco will need experienced Spanish ATCOs to take up management and training positions to oversee the transition period and to cover for the forseeable future.
The fact is that there are 100s of potential trainees out there who can fill the basic ADI positions which are now being advertised and many of them are undertaking their training in the UK to equip them with a UK licence (valid worldwide).
Privatisation is the only way forward, if you are an experienced Spanish ATCO, you would be very silly not to take advantage of the possibilities whilst they are available.
When there are public services being reduced to the minimum, public sector workers not being paid and the Spanish economy in dire straights, do you really think the electorate will care for attitudes such as yours?
I detect that you are possibly one of the ATCOs who will be most affected by the proposed change i.e. You are not in a position to take early retirement and the generous severence package which goes with it. Or indeed, the offer of early retirement, the package and to return to work as an OJTI on a contract basis paying around 500 euro per day?
The facts are that FerroNats and SAerco will need experienced Spanish ATCOs to take up management and training positions to oversee the transition period and to cover for the forseeable future.
The fact is that there are 100s of potential trainees out there who can fill the basic ADI positions which are now being advertised and many of them are undertaking their training in the UK to equip them with a UK licence (valid worldwide).
Privatisation is the only way forward, if you are an experienced Spanish ATCO, you would be very silly not to take advantage of the possibilities whilst they are available.
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Cow-pie said:-
"The facts are that Ferronats and SAerco will need experienced Spanish ATCOs to take up management ant training positions to oversee the transition period".
REALLY?
Unlike in the U.K, where many management positions are held by individuals with little or no ATC experience. Indeed the manager in charge of training,
(allegedly), does not come from an ATC background, and neither did the individual who was in post before. Some of these individuals, allegedly, are jealous of operational staff, and the skills they possess.
Having overseen the transition, will these 'managers' then do a runner, like those involved in a recent U.K. NATS transition?
"Privatisation is the only way forward".
EXCELLENT!
So six years from now Spanish ATC will still be short-staffed, BUT, will have the luxury of the second glitzy corporate re-branding to look forward to.
"The facts are that Ferronats and SAerco will need experienced Spanish ATCOs to take up management ant training positions to oversee the transition period".
REALLY?
Unlike in the U.K, where many management positions are held by individuals with little or no ATC experience. Indeed the manager in charge of training,
(allegedly), does not come from an ATC background, and neither did the individual who was in post before. Some of these individuals, allegedly, are jealous of operational staff, and the skills they possess.
Having overseen the transition, will these 'managers' then do a runner, like those involved in a recent U.K. NATS transition?
"Privatisation is the only way forward".
EXCELLENT!
So six years from now Spanish ATC will still be short-staffed, BUT, will have the luxury of the second glitzy corporate re-branding to look forward to.
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When there are public services being reduced to the minimum, public sector workers not being paid and the Spanish economy in dire straights, do you really think the electorate will care for attitudes such as yours?
I detect that you are possibly one of the ATCOs who will be most affected by the proposed change i.e. You are not in a position to take early retirement and the generous severence package which goes with it. Or indeed, the offer of early retirement, the package and to return to work as an OJTI on a contract basis paying around 500 euro per day?
The facts are that FerroNats and SAerco will need experienced Spanish ATCOs to take up management and training positions to oversee the transition period and to cover for the forseeable future.
The fact is that there are 100s of potential trainees out there who can fill the basic ADI positions which are now being advertised and many of them are undertaking their training in the UK to equip them with a UK licence (valid worldwide).
Privatisation is the only way forward, if you are an experienced Spanish ATCO, you would be very silly not to take advantage of the possibilities whilst they are available.
I detect that you are possibly one of the ATCOs who will be most affected by the proposed change i.e. You are not in a position to take early retirement and the generous severence package which goes with it. Or indeed, the offer of early retirement, the package and to return to work as an OJTI on a contract basis paying around 500 euro per day?
The facts are that FerroNats and SAerco will need experienced Spanish ATCOs to take up management and training positions to oversee the transition period and to cover for the forseeable future.
The fact is that there are 100s of potential trainees out there who can fill the basic ADI positions which are now being advertised and many of them are undertaking their training in the UK to equip them with a UK licence (valid worldwide).
Privatisation is the only way forward, if you are an experienced Spanish ATCO, you would be very silly not to take advantage of the possibilities whilst they are available.
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Danscowpie, keep on guessing if you want, but stop "detecting" about me or what can affect me, please, you donīt know me at all.
Spanish economy is in dire straights, absolutely true, and let me tell you, itīs not the only one. Perhaps you are mixing up expectations with reality. Anyway, weīll see it in a few weeks.
Spanish economy is in dire straights, absolutely true, and let me tell you, itīs not the only one. Perhaps you are mixing up expectations with reality. Anyway, weīll see it in a few weeks.
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In response to some of the previous comments, I think it's worth remembering what happened in the UK some time ago (1996?). Then, the Labour opposition's Andrew Smith, a Shadow Minister at the Treasury, stated that 'Our air is not for sale.' About 20 minutes after Labour were elected to power, that statement was forgotten and plans were made to privatise NATS. It should be obvious that what parties say when they're in opposition and what they do in government aren't always/usually the same. Maybe Spain will be different.
