Question for German ATC
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Arriving from the south of Munich with a flight plan ending at NAPSA. Before arriving to NAPSA you are radar vectored to the north and told Direct to DM427 and then DM420. These points are not related to any NAPSA arrivals, only north transitions via ROKIL and LANDU08. In the FMS this is entered and shown as a straight line between these two waypoints; no intermediate waypoints, now the question is:
The waypoint DM423 that is between them has a restriction of Minimum FL80, is that restriction canceled with such a clearance? We were never cleared for any transition at the time.
If someone from German ATC can answer that, and if so some kind of reference for that in a textbook would be greatly appreciated!
The waypoint DM423 that is between them has a restriction of Minimum FL80, is that restriction canceled with such a clearance? We were never cleared for any transition at the time.
If someone from German ATC can answer that, and if so some kind of reference for that in a textbook would be greatly appreciated!
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OK, after hours of searching I found the answer in the German AIP online.
For anyone interested in this subject it can be found at ENR1.5 pg16
below is the excerpt:
Thanks to anyone who tried searching for this material!
Cheers
For anyone interested in this subject it can be found at ENR1.5 pg16
below is the excerpt:
1. Applicabilitiy
At
Berlin/Schönefeld Frankfurt-Hahn Leipzig-Altenburg
Berlin-Tegel Frankfurt/Main Leipzig/Halle
Bremen Friedrichshafen Lübeck-Blankensee
Dresden Hamburg München
Düsseldorf Hannover Nürnberg
Erfurt Köln/Bonn Stuttgart
3. Transmission of the clearance
Clearance is transmitted by applying the following phraseology:
3.1 CLEARED (designator) TRANSITION
Permission to fly the lateral part of a Transition to Final Approach
routing, including assigned speeds. Altitudes will be assigned
separately.
3.2 CLEARED (designator) TRANSITION AND PROFILE
Permission to fly a Transition to Final Approach routing including
assigned speeds and altitudes.
3.3 PROCEED DIRECT WAYPOINT (designator) and/or
CLEARED VIA WAYPOINTS (designator) AND (designator)
AND (designator)
Permission to fly from the present position direct to one waypoint
and/or via a combination of waypoints, including the continuation of
the flight on the lateral part of a Transition to Final Approach routing
adjoining the last waypoint, including assigned speeds. Altitudes
will be assigned separately.
Remark: The designation of waypoints is based on the last two
letters of the four letter ICAO location indicator and additionally
three digits.
In radio communications, the respective waypoint number only shall
be used if applicable. e.g.: PROCEED DIRECT WAYPOINT (designator)
At
Berlin/Schönefeld Frankfurt-Hahn Leipzig-Altenburg
Berlin-Tegel Frankfurt/Main Leipzig/Halle
Bremen Friedrichshafen Lübeck-Blankensee
Dresden Hamburg München
Düsseldorf Hannover Nürnberg
Erfurt Köln/Bonn Stuttgart
3. Transmission of the clearance
Clearance is transmitted by applying the following phraseology:
3.1 CLEARED (designator) TRANSITION
Permission to fly the lateral part of a Transition to Final Approach
routing, including assigned speeds. Altitudes will be assigned
separately.
3.2 CLEARED (designator) TRANSITION AND PROFILE
Permission to fly a Transition to Final Approach routing including
assigned speeds and altitudes.
3.3 PROCEED DIRECT WAYPOINT (designator) and/or
CLEARED VIA WAYPOINTS (designator) AND (designator)
AND (designator)
Permission to fly from the present position direct to one waypoint
and/or via a combination of waypoints, including the continuation of
the flight on the lateral part of a Transition to Final Approach routing
adjoining the last waypoint, including assigned speeds. Altitudes
will be assigned separately.
Remark: The designation of waypoints is based on the last two
letters of the four letter ICAO location indicator and additionally
three digits.
In radio communications, the respective waypoint number only shall
be used if applicable. e.g.: PROCEED DIRECT WAYPOINT (designator)
Cheers
