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The advertisement says "Hold a valid Air Traffic Controller Licence preferably with Approach Radar Rating".
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EU ATCO Directive
CAP744 says this:
6.1.1 The holder of such a Licence who intends to seek employment as an air traffic controller in the UK, shall apply in writing to the CAA to obtain confirmation that his Licence is acceptable to the CAA, before seeking such employment.
6.1.2 The Licence cannot be used in the UK unless it is accompanied by confirmation from the CAA that the Licence has been recognised as acceptable by the CAA as the UK Licensing Authority.
I guess therefore that Southend's requirement for 'Valid Air Traffic Control Licence' would be met by an EU licence (provided it has been itself issued in accordance with directive 2006/23/EC) only if accompanied by CAA confirmation of acceptablilty. The key word IMHO in the CAA's rules is in para 6.1.1 - 'before'.
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6.1.1 The holder of such a Licence who intends to seek employment as an air traffic controller in the UK, shall apply in writing to the CAA to obtain confirmation that his Licence is acceptable to the CAA, before seeking such employment.
6.1.2 The Licence cannot be used in the UK unless it is accompanied by confirmation from the CAA that the Licence has been recognised as acceptable by the CAA as the UK Licensing Authority.
I guess therefore that Southend's requirement for 'Valid Air Traffic Control Licence' would be met by an EU licence (provided it has been itself issued in accordance with directive 2006/23/EC) only if accompanied by CAA confirmation of acceptablilty. The key word IMHO in the CAA's rules is in para 6.1.1 - 'before'.
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Apologies if I was a bit abrupt in my previous post. I am a bit out of date having retired three and a half years ago.
However, subsequent posts do show that just having an EU licence isn't sufficient in itself. You do need confirmation from CAA before applying, so I wasn't entirely wrong
However, subsequent posts do show that just having an EU licence isn't sufficient in itself. You do need confirmation from CAA before applying, so I wasn't entirely wrong
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I wasn't aware of the recognition procedure at all - on the other hand some other employers don't have any problems with making things clear as to whom they are looking for.
I stand by with what I said: offering a position and leaving an applying prospective employee without a single word while they fulfill all the criteria might make you think some nasty things about HR Dept. Aviation or not.
I stand by with what I said: offering a position and leaving an applying prospective employee without a single word while they fulfill all the criteria might make you think some nasty things about HR Dept. Aviation or not.
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wouldnt it be advantageous to have an Approach Procedural ticket over an APS?
SEN operate night shifts which are mostly (if not always) combined ADC/APP single ATCO Ops, so someone who can apply with those ratings stands a good chance of being taken on and subsequently being offered an APS course.
The vast majority of ATCOs with ADC/APS only are ex Mil and have a great deal of difficulty with the concept of procedural control, it's certainly not beyond them - just a dark art which requires them to study the associated black magic to get through it.
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"The vast majority of ATCOs with ADC/APS only are ex Mil and have a great deal of difficulty with the concept of procedural control, it's certainly not beyond them - just a dark art which requires them to study the associated black magic to get through it"
A hell of a sweeping generalisation,now to grasp the concept of hitting the post reply box........
A hell of a sweeping generalisation,now to grasp the concept of hitting the post reply box........
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Since it's been mentioned, how many $s are we talking about? Someone asked a few days ago but got no reply.
Could 2244206 elaborate on:
Having to work under their SATCO would also have to be taken into account too.
Not enough $'s for that.
Not enough $'s for that.
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If there really is anyone posting here who knows, whats the shift system like at EGMC and are you paid in "$" or £?
As has been previously stated, Southend operate H24 for various reasons. The shift system shouldn't be too difficult to work out, even for somebody "back from Mountie country".
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Danscowpie,
My upmost apologies, I'm sorry if I caused any offence and sorry you didn't see the used at the end of the sentence which I originally hoped might have implied I was using a very small amount of casual forum sarcasm towards 2244206 who made the original mention of payment in $, clearly my sarcasm was lost enroute from 'Mountie country'. My turn to use 
Off back to 'have a great deal of difficulty with the concept of procedural control' now.
My upmost apologies, I'm sorry if I caused any offence and sorry you didn't see the
used at the end of the sentence which I originally hoped might have implied I was using a very small amount of casual forum sarcasm towards 2244206 who made the original mention of payment in $, clearly my sarcasm was lost enroute from 'Mountie country'. My turn to use Off back to 'have a great deal of difficulty with the concept of procedural control' now.
