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Your insight is as always appreciated Gonzo 
I'm coming from outside the UK and both me and my girlfriend are planning to live in the UK indefinetly if I get through the selection and validation, so I'm not planning on it per se. I was mostly intrested because I've heard it beeing mentioned so many times but noone has ever told me how it's acctually done in practice
Your comment about Southampton, is it so that if you have a salary at a specific band then you don't get "degraded" if you change to a "lower banded" unit? I hope that question makes sense
I'm coming from outside the UK and both me and my girlfriend are planning to live in the UK indefinetly if I get through the selection and validation, so I'm not planning on it per se. I was mostly intrested because I've heard it beeing mentioned so many times but noone has ever told me how it's acctually done in practice
Your comment about Southampton, is it so that if you have a salary at a specific band then you don't get "degraded" if you change to a "lower banded" unit? I hope that question makes sense
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He's not threatening to tell on you, theres quite obviously a communication breakdown between you!
It's a valid point being made, that some people in the company wouldn't think twice about as you put it 'telling on you'
It's a valid point being made, that some people in the company wouldn't think twice about as you put it 'telling on you'
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I thought your assessment of 'thechevy' and his post was spot on, Garibaldi; his second post just confirms it. Pretty much everyone who starts at the college has a preference for posting and there is no harm in making that known. Although you have to be prepared to go where the company needs you.
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<< 2. Your actually having a laugh? Your threatening to ''tell '' on me??? really?? >>
Try reading what was written - at the risk of 'talking down to you', you might find it a useful thing to do in what you hope will be your new profession..... I suggest toweringcu does the same.
At least dcb2008uk got it right.....
No, I was not having a laugh - I was cautioning you that you never know who you are talking to, so it might not have been such a wise thing to go off at half-cock.
As for general ATC humour, Sir needs to toughen up a bit - you'll get far worse than you had from me......
Try reading what was written - at the risk of 'talking down to you', you might find it a useful thing to do in what you hope will be your new profession..... I suggest toweringcu does the same.
At least dcb2008uk got it right.....
No, I was not having a laugh - I was cautioning you that you never know who you are talking to, so it might not have been such a wise thing to go off at half-cock.
As for general ATC humour, Sir needs to toughen up a bit - you'll get far worse than you had from me......
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The difference being il be paid to have a thick skin then, I shouldnt need one when asking a simple question on a public forum. So, perhaps you need to watch who you are talking to on a public forum.
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Crikey, no sense of humour and a temper. I can't wait to see what type of controller he turns out to be.
De-briefs and the inevitable criticism should be a hoot. (or should I say hoots mon)
De-briefs and the inevitable criticism should be a hoot. (or should I say hoots mon)
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fair play mr garabaldi...i too found minesthechevy's veiled threat / helpful advice either inappropriate or unfunny, whatever it was meant to be.
Seems to reflect the superiority complex that some controllers develop.
Seems to reflect the superiority complex that some controllers develop.
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I do think some people seem to have a sense of humor deficency, really. What I've learned of ATCOs so far they need a) the skillset and b) a large slice of humor, I dont think what he said was a veiled threat at all, and i fact had a valid point..
Just my 2cents...
Just my 2cents...
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Yeah, some people just dont have manners tbh. Its amazing that asking a simple question can turn someone into being rude with their reply for whatever reason. I wouldnt care what employment I was with, if someone spoke to me in a degrading/rude fashion that was not warranted, they would be told where to go.
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What veiled threat?
chevvy merely pointed out that if where you work is really an issue then maybe ATC isn't really the job for you.
He then pointed out, admittedly sarcastically, that there are quick ways to get back to bonny Scotland from London.
garibaldi then seems to have taken umbrage by using a profanity towards chevvy?
Not sure garibaldi is in the right place to comment on manners.
chevvy merely pointed out that if where you work is really an issue then maybe ATC isn't really the job for you.
He then pointed out, admittedly sarcastically, that there are quick ways to get back to bonny Scotland from London.
garibaldi then seems to have taken umbrage by using a profanity towards chevvy?
Not sure garibaldi is in the right place to comment on manners.
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Do you ''normally'' get where you ask for?
I'm not sure someone who is doing an honours degree but doesn't know that the English language has an apostrophe available is suitable anyway.
Shall we close the thread now?
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Mrgaribaldi, here's an attempt to answer your original question. I was an employee for NATS prior to going to the college and as such would loved to have been posted back to where I came from. When asked at the college for preferences I always stated I would have liked my original unit; I stress that the college only ever asks for preferences and in no way promise or are obligated to take into consideration your choice. Business needs will always take precedence and you will have have signed a mobility contract as part of the terms of your employment. They may consider compassionate grounds for a posting but only for exceptional reasons.
Having finished my training I was NOT posted to my original unit. Although very upsetting and disruptive I went to my new unit with enthusiasm and opened mindedness. I am now a valid controller doing what is one of the most rewarding jobs in this day and age. I have a great job, great pay, lots of time off (and I mean a lot) and with hind sight I wonder what I was worrying about. Don't get me wrong, I hated the idea of not getting my choice of posting but now I sit back at work and find myself smiling because of the great career I have.
Sorry for long winded reply, but just thought you might like a bit of perspective from someone who had similar apprehensions. Its a great job and you'll get over them.
Having finished my training I was NOT posted to my original unit. Although very upsetting and disruptive I went to my new unit with enthusiasm and opened mindedness. I am now a valid controller doing what is one of the most rewarding jobs in this day and age. I have a great job, great pay, lots of time off (and I mean a lot) and with hind sight I wonder what I was worrying about. Don't get me wrong, I hated the idea of not getting my choice of posting but now I sit back at work and find myself smiling because of the great career I have.
Sorry for long winded reply, but just thought you might like a bit of perspective from someone who had similar apprehensions. Its a great job and you'll get over them.