Is NATS international?
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I have just come across this article.
Hampshire firms have their eyes on £1bn MoD deal - Portsmouth Today
Which military airfields would they be looking at? Brize etc. Or just the ones currently serviced by civvie ATCO's (Wyton, Wattisham etc etc.).
Sorry if this is a bit of a thread drift.
Hampshire firms have their eyes on £1bn MoD deal - Portsmouth Today
Which military airfields would they be looking at? Brize etc. Or just the ones currently serviced by civvie ATCO's (Wyton, Wattisham etc etc.).
Sorry if this is a bit of a thread drift.
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Last I was involved was about 3 years ago but the article has it right, VF for building stuff, Thales for the wiggly amp gear and NATS to project manage the whole lot, cause we're good at ATC projects. Dunno about the bit where NATS staff were supposed to man the towers, thought that would still be MOD.
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Companies/Governments recruiting ATCOs for overseas jobs in the next few years won't be looking for newly validated ATCOs with zip-all experience. They will be looking for experienced ATCOs, probably in the 35 - 50 age bracket, preferably multi-rated, like Australia did many years ago when Ronnie Reagan donated his controllers for free and the Middle East did 25+ years ago when they were all building their own international airports and Hong Kong did 15 odd years ago when they had failed to recruit enough, and they don't come cheap and they are very expensive to replace.
Non-NATS airports have always looked to "buy" newly trained ATCOs straight from the College of Knowledge. What they save on initial training costs and time can be used to supplement the salaries being offered to encourage graduates to jump ship.
There used to be a story that the old IAL paid an HR man to stand at the college gates on graduation day with a cheque book and a contract to work for them. Urban myth? Next time it's graduation day see if there is anyone waiting at the gates!
IATA is predicting a strong recovery for airlines this year:
BBC News - Airline industry recovering, says Iata trade body
I think we are seeing or about to see a "sellers market" for ATCOs re-appear. Certainly the Middle East contracts currently on offer are pointing that way. How many ATC units can honestly say that they are fully manned and ready for an increase in traffic in the order of 5%?
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Non-NATS airports have always looked to "buy" newly trained ATCOs straight from the College of Knowledge. What they save on initial training costs and time can be used to supplement the salaries being offered to encourage graduates to jump ship.
There used to be a story that the old IAL paid an HR man to stand at the college gates on graduation day with a cheque book and a contract to work for them. Urban myth? Next time it's graduation day see if there is anyone waiting at the gates!
IATA is predicting a strong recovery for airlines this year:
BBC News - Airline industry recovering, says Iata trade body
I think we are seeing or about to see a "sellers market" for ATCOs re-appear. Certainly the Middle East contracts currently on offer are pointing that way. How many ATC units can honestly say that they are fully manned and ready for an increase in traffic in the order of 5%?
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NATS overseas aren't looking for experienced controllers aged 30-35. LXGB has just been sent a 23 year old drama graduate straight from Hurn. Never even spoken to a pilot before! Reason? Much cheapness!
NATS overseas aren't looking for experienced controllers aged 30-35. LXGB has just been sent a 23 year old drama graduate straight from Hurn. Never even spoken to a pilot before! Reason? Much cheapness!
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LXGB. Yeah, but that's to handle 1 aircraft a day, apart from when the Tornados go down for their annual summer holiday.
The big money at the moment is in the Gulf with the likes of OMAA paying £105,000 and OTBD paying £131,000 for TWR and APR. And you won't get offers from either of them if you're a 23 year old drama graduate. Mind you, you might just graduate to be a drama queen if you go there!!!
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The big money at the moment is in the Gulf with the likes of OMAA paying £105,000 and OTBD paying £131,000 for TWR and APR. And you won't get offers from either of them if you're a 23 year old drama graduate. Mind you, you might just graduate to be a drama queen if you go there!!!
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OTB,
"LXGB. Yeah, but that's to handle 1 aircraft a day, apart from when the Tornados go down for their annual summer holiday."
Please get you facts right, some days they may have to handle 2 aircraft!
"LXGB. Yeah, but that's to handle 1 aircraft a day, apart from when the Tornados go down for their annual summer holiday."
Please get you facts right, some days they may have to handle 2 aircraft!
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Oops sorry. That would be one landing and one take-off then!!
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Currently at Doha Radar the yearly Salary (even whilst under dual training) is already QR420 000 p.a.
The accommodation allowance is QR300 000 p.a. - (paid / provided by company). In total p.a. - QR720 000
The accommodation allowance is QR300 000 p.a. - (paid / provided by company). In total p.a. - QR720 000
Just quoting from the guys in the know. If you want to compare it to the UK salaries then you need to add on 25%+ for tax, which would take the total to over £160,000.
I don't know what they are currently paying in Dubai but I'd say that Doha are setting the benchmark at the moment. Maybe trying to get extra staff in for their "new" airport, which I think opens next year.
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