Controller wages in Spain
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Controller wages in Spain
Just read an article in El Pais newspaper about how airports with less than 50 landings will get an automated system. The article said that on average Spanish air traffic controllers make three times the salary of their British counterparts.
There are 2,300 controllers in Spain, and in 2008, they earned an average of 338,000 euros for 1600 hours of work. Some 713 controllers earned between 340,000€ and 540,000€. A few even reaching 900,000€ due to extra hours worked.
There are 2,300 controllers in Spain, and in 2008, they earned an average of 338,000 euros for 1600 hours of work. Some 713 controllers earned between 340,000€ and 540,000€. A few even reaching 900,000€ due to extra hours worked.
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average Spanish air traffic controllers make three times the salary of their British counterparts.
Which some do. But far from being the average
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They want to cut down the spanish ATCO salaries to be more normal. And the government is doing a very hard campaign against the controllers, it started with lies when the minister said that controllers win a minimun of 370k, which made a lof of controllers earning 150-180k jump from their sits. And probably this huge salaries are part lies too. Probably, this is the cost of the controllers to the agency, not the gross salary, but amazing anyway.
Spain is going through difficult times with a big crisis and a 20% of unemployment, so the public opinion is quite sensible to these stunning salaries. In spain people makes normally an annual gross of 20-30k in average, 40-50k the well paid ones and 60-80k the very well paid jobs (managers, doctors at their 40s, etc,) so talk about these numbers of 300k its difficult to explain and deffend.
There is a precedent that a few years ago AENA tried to make a new agreement with the ATC's union to lower the salaries of the new atcs and maintain the big bucks of the ones that were in, but it didn't work when the voting was made inside the union by a little. So...who knows what will be the result now.
As I said before, let's see how this people manage to stop this minister which is saying their salaries in the news every damn day and what deal they do.
Spain is going through difficult times with a big crisis and a 20% of unemployment, so the public opinion is quite sensible to these stunning salaries. In spain people makes normally an annual gross of 20-30k in average, 40-50k the well paid ones and 60-80k the very well paid jobs (managers, doctors at their 40s, etc,) so talk about these numbers of 300k its difficult to explain and deffend.
There is a precedent that a few years ago AENA tried to make a new agreement with the ATC's union to lower the salaries of the new atcs and maintain the big bucks of the ones that were in, but it didn't work when the voting was made inside the union by a little. So...who knows what will be the result now.
As I said before, let's see how this people manage to stop this minister which is saying their salaries in the news every damn day and what deal they do.
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Thanks RobertSC. Its good to hear the Spanish angle on this. I have heard that the current delays into the Canary islands are also due to impending contract negotiations.
Keep it coming.
Keep it coming.
I feel that I could cope with an average salary of €338000 - even in Madrid. I have been learning the lingo (Iberia123 pasar el BA, tu eres el primero) and understand that the Espanisch government want to put pressure in wages by taking cheap foreign labour.
SO where do I send my CV?
Good luck to my brothers in Spain, you're worth every Cent, just a shame the rest of us are paid so pobre.
SO where do I send my CV?
Good luck to my brothers in Spain, you're worth every Cent, just a shame the rest of us are paid so pobre.
...pasar el BA, tu eres el primero
Back on-topic, the AENA wage bill is markedly increased by their reliance on overtime. IF they employed a suitable number of ATC staff they would not have a massive overtime bill and there would not be this outcry over some hard-working individuals raking in the escalating overtime payments.
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Few are honestly interested in contracting new controllers under the current terms of employment they enjoy in Spain. On one side that could have an impact in the overtime controllers are doing. On the other side they are trying to reduce salary costs by introducing "low-cost controllers" , AFISOS and maybe foreing controllers under different t&c. In any case , figures published are related to aprox. 45% of the 2400 controllers working in Spain. The other 55% enjoy a more "normal" salary , let's say btw.70-200k. I wannabe a spanish ATCO!!
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Outrage in Spain over soaring air traffic controllers’ pay - Times Online
Check out Chris K's comment. Unbelievable, Jeff?
Please can I train Gordon on TMA North....?
Check out Chris K's comment. Unbelievable, Jeff?
Please can I train Gordon on TMA North....?
Originally Posted by The Times
British air traffic controllers are paid £60,000 on average but this can rise to around £90,000, according to NATS, the air traffic information service.
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hey TWR
as far as i understand it, there will be a person there but not necessarily a controller or someone deemed to be a controller for special cases and emergencies but the automated stuff is basically like an atis giving the relevant information (wind, weather landing runway....etc) and there will be a standard frequency for all planes arriving to coordinate between themselves on who will land first. thats how it was explained to me.
does that mean that the fire crew won't be there and if they are, who will notify them of any emergency anyway......i'm very concerned coz there is a lot of people out there that i'm sure if they knew they where travelling to a place with effectively, no traffic control.....i don't think i would want to get on that plane not to mention the serious insurance implications for airlines.
its like getting in a cab in the middle of london, doing 100mph with no traffic lights and you as the passenger can only see out a little window to the side.
as far as i understand it, there will be a person there but not necessarily a controller or someone deemed to be a controller for special cases and emergencies but the automated stuff is basically like an atis giving the relevant information (wind, weather landing runway....etc) and there will be a standard frequency for all planes arriving to coordinate between themselves on who will land first. thats how it was explained to me.
does that mean that the fire crew won't be there and if they are, who will notify them of any emergency anyway......i'm very concerned coz there is a lot of people out there that i'm sure if they knew they where travelling to a place with effectively, no traffic control.....i don't think i would want to get on that plane not to mention the serious insurance implications for airlines.
its like getting in a cab in the middle of london, doing 100mph with no traffic lights and you as the passenger can only see out a little window to the side.
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And further "inventory" steps shall include the next option:
that it is the level of today's strategic and developer managers . 
-Heat the cold water until it becomes hot.