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Old 31st Aug 2009, 14:46
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How is North usually expressed as a Heading

I understand that both 000 (Zero-Zero-Zero) degrees and 360 (Three-Six-Zero) degrees are correct, but which is most commonly used/accepted as being correct?

Or is it the case that either is used and the use is interchangable?
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Never heard 0-0-0 degrees,sometimes pilot say heading North,or South etc...
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360 or North, but never heard 000 either.
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'360 degrees' is the correct way of saying it.

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'North' is not a heading, it is a cardinal point on a compass.
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Thanks all. I thought 360 would be the answer, just wanted to check.
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I've heard someone say "turn right heading 365" before.
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Due North anyone?
Pilots occasionally use this, but it is very rare for ATC to say it as an instruction. It may be used in position information though.
'360 degrees; is, as anotherthing says, the correct phaseology.
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Even electronics get it wrong sometimes

Your comment about being asked to turn to 365 degrees reminded me of this from a few years ago.

No prizes for guessing what was wrong with my sat nav, maybe a prize for guessing the car

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355 or 005 - it avoids any potential confusing with FL360.
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BMW 3 series, E46..
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I always use "north". Its easy to use and easy to understand in any language and it can't be mistaken with any other headings or flight levels.
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Spot on Mjt3 - E46 Beemer it is (or rather was)
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I have to admit I've said 365 degrees! Well what's the first answer that pops into your head when you want a pilot to turn right 15 degrees and you know he is currently heading 350 degrees!

I was curious to discover that on the sea they often refer to North as bearing 000 degrees. But it aint something we do in Air Navigation.
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Anotherthing....

'360 degrees' is the correct way of saying it.
[extra pedant mode on]
...in the UK of course. The word 'degrees' is not required by ICAO, nor is it recommended as far as I know.
[extra pedant mode off]

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[super pedant mode on]
But it is of course best practise in the UK.
Time to dust off the radar rating perhaps?!
Anyone for an APC?
[super pedant mode off]
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161R,
Surely you mean APS?
Sooper-dooper pedant mode out!
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To quote one of your heroes "Tonight the night is mine!"

APC is what one has to do to re-activate a rating after it's lapsed following a period of five years ( or four after midnight tonight [YAWN]) since that rating was last exercised.

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161R,
Sincere apologies. You're spot-on, - APC is now APP!
"I wait all night for calls like these".
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161R, I think it's required after a 'heading x x zero', but recommended after 'heading x x five'. I was pointing out that this only applies to the UK, when the original poster had not made it clear what part of the world he/she was talking about. I was afraid we were doing the usual PPRuNe thing of just assuming it was a UK question, which might give the wrong information to someone.
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