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Old 1st Sep 2009, 06:46
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I always used to say "xxx degrees", (like I always said "xxxx millibars") and the smart young kids used to laugh at me.... but I don't recall any pilots confusing my headings. Something about "belt and braces"!!
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Well said HD.
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Well said HD

Would expect to use North in an emergency for a westbound or eastbound
"Turn Left/Right Head north expedite etc..." that needed a 90degree turn

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Thorisgod.. Not quite. There is quite specific phraseology associated with avoiding action in which the heading is given in degrees. I can't think of many occasions when a 90 degree turn would be needed!
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Gonzo -

Quite right, though I was trying to get across the point that the digits 3-6-0- were the proper way to give the heading instruction!

HD,

I have use 90 degrees or more several times when giving avoiding action. Having worked in the military before NATS, I'm not shy in giving AA, though haven't had to do it much since I joined NATS (before people decry my controlling!).

When avoiding action is given, I always teach that finesse goes out of the window. If it has gotten to the stage of needing avoiding action, then no point pratting about giving a heading you think willl achieve 3/5 miles (whatever your minima is), grab a good handful then when you are sure it is sorted, go back and tidy up.

Admittedly more pertinent when controlling fast pointy things that have a tendency to suddenly appear...
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anotherthing... Accepted, but if you're working in a busy TMA and start whacking people round 90 degrees a whole lot of nasty stuff will descend on you!
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