Please help with Radar Vectors
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Please help with Radar Vectors
Hello,
I got a question. I hope you can help me
When you are flying out of an airport with radar vectors after departure: for example, "after departure, right turn, heading 240 for radar vectors".
When can you turn. I presume you have to wait until you pass your omni-directional departure altitude????
I got a question. I hope you can help me
When you are flying out of an airport with radar vectors after departure: for example, "after departure, right turn, heading 240 for radar vectors".
When can you turn. I presume you have to wait until you pass your omni-directional departure altitude????
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If I remember the appropriate extract from PANSOPS correctly.
The turn on departure is calculated at something like 295 ft above the departure end of the runway.
The turn on departure is calculated at something like 295 ft above the departure end of the runway.
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Asked in work today, none of us know wot that omni directional thingy is..must be an icao thing we decided...!!!
Anyhow as for radar headings after departiure..as soon as you can..and please read your notams, if it says noise abatement between the hours of 2200 and 0700 thats when we'd like you to fly straight ahead to 2000ft, not at any other time...!!!
Anyhow as for radar headings after departiure..as soon as you can..and please read your notams, if it says noise abatement between the hours of 2200 and 0700 thats when we'd like you to fly straight ahead to 2000ft, not at any other time...!!!
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Asked in work today, none of us know wot that omni directional thingy is..must be an icao thing we decided
I'll explain it to you one day, but it'll cost a cider or 3 - your round btw
the min turn alt
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First post here...former US FAA ATC, FAA Terps specialist and now FAA Flight Inspection Pilot:
400 feet for straight ahead climb (Zone 1), then turn on course as assigned for Diverse Vector Area (DVA). Climb at minimum 200 ft per mile unless stated otherwise. ATC procedures like this require TERPS evaluation for obstacle clearance and all assume 400 ft straight ahead climb before the turn (2 NM worst case). This initial climb is the same for all vector or pilot nav departures unless the word "immediately" is included to avoid terrain. When you see that word, take heed.
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400 feet for straight ahead climb (Zone 1), then turn on course as assigned for Diverse Vector Area (DVA). Climb at minimum 200 ft per mile unless stated otherwise. ATC procedures like this require TERPS evaluation for obstacle clearance and all assume 400 ft straight ahead climb before the turn (2 NM worst case). This initial climb is the same for all vector or pilot nav departures unless the word "immediately" is included to avoid terrain. When you see that word, take heed.
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I would assume that if in VMC, the turn could be initiated when it is safe to do so/ref aircraft type/speed/bank/company ops. After all, the vast majority of the time we are more or less VMC...
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Thanx but...
In a word - Yes
That was what I presumed
It all depends on who requests a turn - pilot or ATC
Thanks in advance