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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 20:19
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Communication Failure

Hi,
It might be a stupid question, and I know I should have known the answer, but I got confused after a chat with another pilot.
So here it goes:

If my filled flight plan includes the arrival route (let's say NORKU2A to EHAM), and assuming complete comm-failure during cruise, should I commence my descend to keep the altitude restrictions of the STAR (e.g. Norku 280B) - even though I wasn't cleared for NORKU2A, or should I proceed to the primary navaid (SPL) through NORKU and ARTIP and start the descent in the holding pattern.


Thx
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Old 24th Mar 2009, 11:08
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In the airspace I control the RCF procedure is: "Squawk 7600. Continue on STAR and start approach without delay."

But this is different in almost all airspace so I surfed my way in to the Netherlands AIP
AIP for NETHERLANDS (section AD-2.EHAM) valid from 12 MAR 09

Hope this answers your Q
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Old 25th Mar 2009, 23:02
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That has cleared up the confusion.
(In case of EHAM, the last assigned level should be kept until the fix (i.e ARTIP), and descend to Fl70 in the holding.

Doesn't this complicate things for the controllers? I mean, blocking the holdning area from Fl410 to Fl70 over ARTIP might be a nightmare during busy periods.
(In case of London, the STAR's descent profile should be kept, or the aircraft should arrive at the minimum published level over the fix)
Anyway, Thanks
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If its a complete communication failure its probably best just to follow the fighter escort
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