Work involoved in giving an FIS.
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Work involoved in giving an FIS.
Hi all, just out of curiosity, if I in a light aircraft was passing near to your airfield ctl zone say with its own CTR and I call you for a FIS but remaining clear of controlled airspace, what kind of work would that involve for you.
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I refer you to my previous answer Nick.. There really is not a lot for the controller to do, unless he has information concerning, for example, your destination, or reported bad weather en route.
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Why don't you try accessing the CD or online package to enlighten yourself. As HD states, there's not a lot of work in a solitary BS. Try asking to visit your local ATC provider for a visit and I am sure they'll be more than happy to oblige. A bit of face to face meeting helps both parties understand each other a bit more. Just remember to bring biscuits.
Why don't you try accessing the CD or online package to enlighten yourself. As HD states, there's not a lot of work in a solitary BS. Try asking to visit your local ATC provider for a visit and I am sure they'll be more than happy to oblige. A bit of face to face meeting helps both parties understand each other a bit more. Just remember to bring biscuits.
Could I ask a supplementary question about a FIS, sorry BS, when outside CAS?
Do controllers like to be advised of altitude changes even when your squawking Mode C? Sometimes, when controllers are very busy, it seems an unnecessary addition to their work load. This seems particularly relevant, say, to the East of Bristol when one wants to keep clear of Colerne and cloud conditions have changed to allow you to climb above their ATZ.
I must confess that I tend not to bother, but will if it is what controllers want.
Do controllers like to be advised of altitude changes even when your squawking Mode C? Sometimes, when controllers are very busy, it seems an unnecessary addition to their work load. This seems particularly relevant, say, to the East of Bristol when one wants to keep clear of Colerne and cloud conditions have changed to allow you to climb above their ATZ.
I must confess that I tend not to bother, but will if it is what controllers want.
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Hi Grabbers, if the CD you refer to is the one regarding ATC outside controlled airspace, I have one came a few weeks back,
Just being nosey to what goes on your end when a GA type asks for basic service, ie do you fill in a strip ect.
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Just being nosey to what goes on your end when a GA type asks for basic service, ie do you fill in a strip ect.
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ie do you fill in a strip ect.
Beyond that, at the very least, your intended routing and level. You may or may not be asked to report at certain points, and your level and changes of that. It is generally dependant on the air traffic in the relevant area.
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I am familiar with the area of which you speak. As a controller I would always appreciate being informed of any changes in your altitudes, headings or flight conditions. If you assess the RT as being busy then a quick "G-XX now at xxxxft to maintain VMC/above cloud, tracking XX". At the very least it gives us an idea of weather in your area and at best we may know of something in your area that wasn't a definite risk of collision due to altitude but you may have unknowingly adjusted to make said traffic a factor. Also, you can often tell in a pilots voice how confident he/she is in what they're doing. An unsure pilot certainly gets a lot more of my attention, regardless of the type of service.
Like I said earlier, try and arrange a visit to your local ATC unit. I'm sure you would be made welcome and the more GA pilots that do, the more we can all understand each other.
I am familiar with the area of which you speak. As a controller I would always appreciate being informed of any changes in your altitudes, headings or flight conditions. If you assess the RT as being busy then a quick "G-XX now at xxxxft to maintain VMC/above cloud, tracking XX". At the very least it gives us an idea of weather in your area and at best we may know of something in your area that wasn't a definite risk of collision due to altitude but you may have unknowingly adjusted to make said traffic a factor. Also, you can often tell in a pilots voice how confident he/she is in what they're doing. An unsure pilot certainly gets a lot more of my attention, regardless of the type of service.
Like I said earlier, try and arrange a visit to your local ATC unit. I'm sure you would be made welcome and the more GA pilots that do, the more we can all understand each other.
Thanks Grabbers. I will change the habit of a lifetime.
I often get a BS from Bournemouth and they are usually so busy that, if you're outside CAS, it really is basic. However, I was very surprised one afternoon when, passing north of their Zone towards Compton Abbas, they asked me if I had a problem. They had noticed that I was tracking slightly south of Compton Abbas because my passenger wanted to see the Dorset Steam Fair. That should have told me that they like to be told what you're up to.
I often get a BS from Bournemouth and they are usually so busy that, if you're outside CAS, it really is basic. However, I was very surprised one afternoon when, passing north of their Zone towards Compton Abbas, they asked me if I had a problem. They had noticed that I was tracking slightly south of Compton Abbas because my passenger wanted to see the Dorset Steam Fair. That should have told me that they like to be told what you're up to.
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It really is so we can provide the best service possible, irrespective of which service you're under. They were probably concerned about you and, possibly a descending Mode C readout. Could indicate a AFL or tech problem. THe key is, if the RT sounds busy keep your Tx's clear and to the point. A visit would prove invaluable I reckon.
It really is so we can provide the best service possible, irrespective of which service you're under. They were probably concerned about you and, possibly a descending Mode C readout. Could indicate a AFL or tech problem. THe key is, if the RT sounds busy keep your Tx's clear and to the point. A visit would prove invaluable I reckon.
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just to clarify - you wouldn't get a Basic Service inside controlled airspace as it is a service only for outside CAS
