A question about Annex10v2 & CAP413
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A question about Annex10v2 & CAP413
Could someone tell me what the following parts in Annex10v2 and CAP413 actually mean and maybe give an example?
Annex 10v2:
5.2.1.9.3 End of conversation. A radiotelephone conversation shall be terminated by the receiving station using its own call sign.
CAP413:
Appendix 1
The following method of ending conversations is not used in UK....
In the UK the word OUT is used to indicate that the transmission has ended and no response is expected. When there little possibility of confusion or misunderstanding, the word OUT is normally omitted.
The only example I can find from CAP413 about this is in the end of an SRA. However isn't the aircraft the receiving station and not the ATC-unit?
Annex 10v2:
5.2.1.9.3 End of conversation. A radiotelephone conversation shall be terminated by the receiving station using its own call sign.
CAP413:
Appendix 1
The following method of ending conversations is not used in UK....
In the UK the word OUT is used to indicate that the transmission has ended and no response is expected. When there little possibility of confusion or misunderstanding, the word OUT is normally omitted.
The only example I can find from CAP413 about this is in the end of an SRA. However isn't the aircraft the receiving station and not the ATC-unit?
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ramzez,
I think that the grammer in the rules is confusing you! All that those rules mean are that when everyone has finished speaking at an obvious point then the final transmision can simply end using the unit or aircraft callsign. ie no need to say 'OUT'. The CAP 413 bit gives the option to say 'OUT' in case it is not obvious that the R/T exchange has finished. The end of a SRA is a slightly more formal point and to be sure that the pilot is not expecting any further instructions from ATC the 'OUT' is to be used.
That's my take on it anyhow!
Regards, ADIS
I think that the grammer in the rules is confusing you! All that those rules mean are that when everyone has finished speaking at an obvious point then the final transmision can simply end using the unit or aircraft callsign. ie no need to say 'OUT'. The CAP 413 bit gives the option to say 'OUT' in case it is not obvious that the R/T exchange has finished. The end of a SRA is a slightly more formal point and to be sure that the pilot is not expecting any further instructions from ATC the 'OUT' is to be used.
That's my take on it anyhow!
Regards, ADIS
