Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Ground & Other Ops Forums > ATC Issues
Reload this Page >

what headsets to use?

Wikiposts
Search
ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.

what headsets to use?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 21st Jan 2009, 14:07
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: EU
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
what headsets to use?

simple question, what headset brand used at your facilities? any preferences?
ron83 is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2009, 15:42
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: In the clouds
Age: 52
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've used Flighcom's. They are good value for money.
Then David Clark's, very good quality. Mine is 17 years old, still working fine.

I'm looking to buy a new ANR model. Any suggestions ?

Thanks
Tahitimax is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2009, 15:58
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: The South
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm looking to buy a new ANR model. Any suggestions ?
Try looking at LOOP.aero there are a few headsets reviewed there. Best quality is Bose, although they're rather pricey!
Rossoneri is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2009, 16:52
  #4 (permalink)  
Moderator
 
PPRuNe Radar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1997
Location: Europe
Posts: 3,228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
With reference to the answers above, I don't know of many ATC facilities which will let you buy your own.
PPRuNe Radar is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2009, 16:54
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 553
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Really? That's very generous of them!
Ten West is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2009, 17:46
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 1,916
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
I don't know of many ATC facilities which will let you buy your own.
But if MOL ever aquires an ANSP, he'll insist on it!
spekesoftly is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2009, 17:53
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: On a different Island
Age: 52
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Plantronics we used in Oz were good but did have reliability issues; seems like they were in the fixer shop at least annually.

The Sennheiser (spelling?) we use in Ireland (I think that's what they are) seem to do the job fine, but I find them a little top heavy (mine falls off when I tilt my head) and I'm not a fan of the double ear muff only option.

If you are in the job of buying for a facility have a good look around at neighbouring units etc; if you are starting a new job, you'll find that BYO headset isn't usually allowed.
Blockla is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2009, 18:52
  #8 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: EU
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
to clarify any preferences in mono headsets?
Yes, I believe it's not allowed to use own headsets at our center too,but interesting to know industry leaders or good headsets to use.
I will check ours,but it's plantronics style,mono around ear with voice tube
ron83 is offline  
Old 21st Jan 2009, 21:06
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Dorset
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The problem with picking a headset for ATC use is that A) it must be able to interface to your existing voice comms kit and B) whatever you end up picking, it's a personal piece of kit which will never please everyone.
You can trial half a dozen types by different manufacturers and get no consensus back from ATC as to which they want.

We use sennheiser hme 46 ATC types with the earpiece working in split mode.
Very good audio quality and much lighter than our previous Racal type, but not as robust.
Because the HME 46 headset sits "on" rather than "over" the ears, background noise can be an issue, so a recent modification was to fit larger ear pads.
This seems to have solved this issue.
Good luck in whatever you pick
Comms Boy is offline  
Old 22nd Jan 2009, 11:43
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LEEDS
Posts: 1,261
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
NATS have traditionally used Racal Jetlites and, before those, Astrolites, as have several non-NATS units. Not sure what they go for these days. I think it depends on the unit. I believe at Edinburgh they use the Airlite 100. Some airfields may still use the Airlite 62. At Leeds Bradford they use an obscure Plantronics device. I say obscure because I can't find any info about it but having worn one it is binaural, very light, lousy audio quality and flimsy as hell. Not good.

If it were my choice, I'd go for the Sennheiser HME or HMD 46.
Mooncrest is offline  
Old 25th Jan 2009, 21:31
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: EHAA
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
@Ron83: Im guessing you work at LVNL? If so, we use Jabra headsets! (There are one or two guy's who use in-ear headsets! )
Surferboy is offline  
Old 26th Jan 2009, 06:30
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: The land that taste forgot
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Racal RA112/2000

provided by our employer.

poor cables,very flimsy construction and to add insult to injury the Black "leatherette" ear muffs are prone to disintergration leaving ones face covered in sticky black flakes!
man friday is offline  
Old 26th Jan 2009, 11:03
  #13 (permalink)  
Beady Eye
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 1,495
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Mooncrest
NATS have traditionally used Racal Jetlites and, before those, Astrolites, as have several non-NATS units. Not sure what they go for these days. I think it depends on the unit. <snip>
If it were my choice, I'd go for the Sennheiser HME or HMD 46.
Good to hear as NERL are issuing those across the patch (LTC, LAC and PC), which means NATS will mainly be using those.

BD
BDiONU is offline  
Old 27th Jan 2009, 14:13
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: EDDM
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
DFS uses Imtradex ,

Link


Saigor
Saigor is offline  
Old 27th Jan 2009, 18:44
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: southampton
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Because the HME 46 headset sits "on" rather than "over" the ears, background noise can be an issue, so a recent modification was to fit larger ear pads.
This seems to have solved this issue


The large ear pads fall off. A lot. They don't fit the headsets properly.

The boom for the mic isn't long enough so it doesn't sit in front of my mouth. (could be my fat face though! )

Apart from that they are better than the old type.
1985 is offline  
Old 27th Jan 2009, 19:30
  #16 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: EU
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yes,we use imtradex AirTalk XS.
Saigor thanks for the link
Surferboy,no not at lvnl,a bit more on the north
ron83 is offline  
Old 27th Jan 2009, 20:35
  #17 (permalink)  
Beady Eye
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 1,495
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 1985
The large ear pads fall off. A lot. They don't fit the headsets properly.
Just a thought, have you taken the plastic ring out of the padded bit of the large ear pad, removed the foam earpad on the headset and then fitted the plastic ring over the plastic earpiece (very tight fit, you gotta start on one side and push it round with your thumbs). Finally put the padded bit back on. Should stay on then as I suspect yours is just loosely attached and not clipped on.


BD
BDiONU is offline  
Old 27th Jan 2009, 20:37
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
Posts: 2,001
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BDiONU.
"across the patch".
Management Bullsh*t Bingo B*ll*cks!
ZOOKER is offline  
Old 28th Jan 2009, 16:24
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: southampton
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
BD

Nope haven't tried that. I will now though. Thanks
1985 is offline  
Old 28th Jan 2009, 19:13
  #20 (permalink)  
Beady Eye
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 1,495
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ZOOKER
[SIZE="3"]BDiONU.
"across the patch".
Management Bullsh*t Bingo B*ll*cks! [SIZE]
I did amplify by stating LTC, LAC and PC for those who're a little hard of understanding.

BD
BDiONU is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.