police cautions + atco application
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police cautions + atco application
Hi all,
I failed at Stage 2 last year and unfortunately since then have received a police caution for fraud as I had obtained some goods for free which I stupidly kept quiet about.
I have no intention of trying to hide this, not least because it would show up on the disclosure anyway.
Does anyone know if it is even worth me applying again next year with this on my record?
Thanks
I failed at Stage 2 last year and unfortunately since then have received a police caution for fraud as I had obtained some goods for free which I stupidly kept quiet about.
I have no intention of trying to hide this, not least because it would show up on the disclosure anyway.
Does anyone know if it is even worth me applying again next year with this on my record?
Thanks
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A posting to an airport may prove awkward, The CRC will throw up the caution you received, and may result in a refusal of an airside ID from the airfield operator (ie- BAA). If you are expected to work airside by your employer, then this can be difficult to work around.
As for being already employed, again, in the airside environment, the renewal of an airside ID may also prove difficult.
As for being already employed, again, in the airside environment, the renewal of an airside ID may also prove difficult.
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From: NAV Canada
Dont ask how I know, but it shouldn't affect your clearance - lets just say been there done that and Im an employee now! A caution isnt a serious problem and if its your only blotch wont prevent you obtaining security clearance at a centre or an airport.
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From: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
Fidgell,
After further consideration, there is, in fact, no need for you to travel to the antipodes.
You'll be serving your sentence at the NERL Correctional Facility on the Costa del Saltcoats.
After further consideration, there is, in fact, no need for you to travel to the antipodes.
You'll be serving your sentence at the NERL Correctional Facility on the Costa del Saltcoats.
Last edited by ZOOKER; 28th October 2008 at 16:32.
niknak
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As others have posted, it's a difficult one to call but you should apply and be totally open and honest when filling in all the paperwork and if asked at the interview.
If your prospective employer (NATS or whoever it may subsequently be) is willing to employ you, then their support as a reputable employer should be enough to satisfy the airport authority security protocols.
Additionally, as an ATCO, your airside pass would probably be very restrictive in terms of going anywhere but the ATC complex and the manouvering area (if at all).
Fraud is fraud but it sounds as if you were on the lower edgeof the scale, there are Atcos out there who've done worse things.
Just be honest and if asked, ensure that you show a suitable level of contriteness for your moment of madness in the past.
The latest "informed sources" say that Fidgell is being banished to the land of Safeskys at Her Majety's Pleasure.
If your prospective employer (NATS or whoever it may subsequently be) is willing to employ you, then their support as a reputable employer should be enough to satisfy the airport authority security protocols.
Additionally, as an ATCO, your airside pass would probably be very restrictive in terms of going anywhere but the ATC complex and the manouvering area (if at all).
Fraud is fraud but it sounds as if you were on the lower edgeof the scale, there are Atcos out there who've done worse things.
Just be honest and if asked, ensure that you show a suitable level of contriteness for your moment of madness in the past.
The latest "informed sources" say that Fidgell is being banished to the land of Safeskys at Her Majety's Pleasure.
Last edited by niknak; 28th October 2008 at 18:10.
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Thanks everyone
Thanks everyone, those responses were certainly more positive than I expected! It'll be around Easter before I start the process again so anyone out there in my situation (and can wait that long!), keep a note of my name and I'll let you know how I get along!
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From: Abu Dhabi
Not very proud of this particular admission but I had a conviction for drink driving many moons ago when I joined. They asked lots of questions about it (was about 3 years previously) at my initial medical to assure themselves I wasn't an alchy but otherwise was no problem.
Everybody makes mistakes, just be prepared to answer some awkward questions if they ask.
Everybody makes mistakes, just be prepared to answer some awkward questions if they ask.
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Judgement & integrity develop by experience as much as anything else: recruitment know that, hence, it's not what you may/may not have done, it's more about how you deal with it, & move on - & it seems you're doing ok.
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From: Deepest darkest Inbredland....
A guy I was on an ATSA course with didn't declare a couple of cautions, and when he was found out in the middle of the course, he was immediately dismissed. Tell then ASAP. Good luck.
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From: not telling
Are you sure that the caution will even show?
Years ago I had a caution for S2 Assault (worse than it sounds!) and it didnt show on 3 record checks I had during that time - one of them was actually a 'more in depth' one (I forget the technical name for it) and it wasnt on that one either.
Dont forget that after 5 yrs cautions are spent and dont need to be declared.
Years ago I had a caution for S2 Assault (worse than it sounds!) and it didnt show on 3 record checks I had during that time - one of them was actually a 'more in depth' one (I forget the technical name for it) and it wasnt on that one either.
Dont forget that after 5 yrs cautions are spent and dont need to be declared.
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From: LHR/EGLL
Additionally, as an ATCO, your airside pass would probably be very restrictive in terms of going anywhere but the ATC complex and the manouvering area (if at all).
( & the CAA kept his pay till he was released !! 
