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Old 8th Sep 2008, 13:27
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I am very interested in getting my FISO license in the near future however i have some questions. I have a Valid JAR-PPL(A), what exams am i therefore exempt from? Are there any past papers or practice papers available for the written exams? Besides CAP413, CAP427 and CAP410(A+B) are there any books out there for training FISOs similar the ones people use when training for their PPL and ATPL exams?

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Why not ask SRG's ATS Standards Department at Aviation House, Gatwick about any FISO exam exemptions?

As for past papers, generally speaking only what folk might offer on eBay...

You could also have a chat with your local FISO (A) unit.

You have all the available manuals - anything else would be produced by one of the UK colleges offering training and would be available only to their trainees.
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Don't think such things exist - it's not a big training market! But the CAPs that you mention should give you everything you need (perhaps along with the ANO). Isn't there an example exam paper in one of them?
 
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biggles152. As a PPL holder you will be exempt from the written
examination in Navigation and Meteorology.

You will still need to take and pass the Law and Procedures written exam and pass the passed the examination for the grant of an aeronautical radio station operator Certificate of Competence, as well as being able to speak English fluently.

Following the succesful completion of these exams you would then be issued with a FISO licence. Before that licence can be validated you would then have to undertake a minimum of 40 hours of service provision under supervision at the aerodrome that you are to work at. A maximum of four hours training per day can be counted towards this total. You would then undertake a Validation Exam, conisting of a practical and oral test - this is geared up to local aerodrome procedures, local airspace knowledge, ATS facilities etc.

Once this validation is succdesfully completed you can then work unsupervised.

After this you must provide the at least once every 90 days or perform a revalidation.

As a minimum, every two years you will have a further Validation Exam.

You'll see that in practical terms therefore you really need to have a job lined up at your local FISO unit before beginning training.

CAP427 covers all this in detail, but hope that helps. I will see if I can find some practice exams questions for you over the weekend,
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I disagree with the previous poster's sentiments that one shouldn't take the exam unless one has a job lined up first.

Taking the exam is not very onerous. It's something one can easily study for in one's spare time. And once you have the licence you can go for any FISO job that comes up, and you will be available to start immediately. This puts you in a much better position than someone who replies to a job advert saying "I am very interested, will you consider me once I have taken the exam in three months' time?" (Exams are only held four times a year, on the last Thursday of January, April, July and October)
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I agree, you may as well get the written examinations (including the NAV and MET papers for non PPL holders) out of the way first of which all the material can be learnt from the CAP manuals (without great difficulty) in your spare time, before considering your practical training at an aerodrome. Remember you need a miniumum 40 hours practical training before going for your validation to get your full FISO licence.
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Biggles152:

Don't neccesarily expect to achieve validation after 40 hours supervised training. It took me much longer, despite the fact that I had been flying for ten years. I didn't mind because the training was great fun. It may also happen that you realise that air traffic work is not for you after all. A number of people have started validation training at my unit but then given up for this reason.

As I guide, a couple of months part-time study will get you through the exams, building on you PPL knowledge. Study at the unit could easily be the same, depending on local circumstances and the content of the MATS Part 2 equivalent.

Mind you, I started in my late 50s. If you're twenty-something, I should think it will be much easier.

Alan.
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If you are after practice papers give me a shout i have 3 that i have written.

They are pretty cheap so pm me and i will send you the details

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