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Old 7th Aug 2008, 05:33
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Airservices Australia publishing business only booming sector

Just got home to this aggravating horseh1t. 36 incredibly shiny pages of the dreariest corporate drivel. Far to shiny to hang in the bog. It is enough to make you weep, they will pull out all stops to put this hot air in my letterbox, and everything wrong with the world is the fault of lazy controllers. Grrrrrrrr!

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publishing - the blooming business?

you don't know the half of it.
Apparently these were handed out at Waypoint 2008, but there was an error in it, so they reprinted the glossy before sending it out to the troops!
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Ahhhh......"Our People".
Where the hell has this bloody irritating phrase come from?
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And once again the photo's of the shiny new tower sim without a trainee to be seen.
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Oh, I thought it was an historical document? A nostalgic look back to times past- when they employed people, and provided services to the Australian Avaiation industry.

Isn't that why the tower sim is there? To provide an artificial backdrop for when people need photos of ATCs. It isn't used to train anyone, so what else could it be for? I always thought they went for too much. They just need to photoshop people onto a background shot. Why they need a whole sim for photo shoots is beyond me. But I guess they have a plan.
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Simulator Functionality

AVV,

The "experts" who specified and purchased the simulator had NO recent experience in such matters and were swayed by glossy brochures and whiz bang technology. They were offered assitance based on several recent tasks associated with current generation simulation for ATM but chose to go their own way.

"You get what you pay for" - except that, in this case, they could have "got" a much better deal, with an engine that could have provided all phases of ATM sumulation, probably much cheaper.

They also missed out on the vital first steps of defining a Training Concept of Operation (for the whole organistation!) and using that to determine a robust Function Specification.

Had those steps occurred you'd most likely have a decent enroute (and TMA and Visual) simulation facility.
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ENR Simulation

Gne,

And just what sort of ENR simulator would you have bought?

For those that care to notice, the simulators in BN and ML centres are effectively exact copies of the real positions ( minus UFB ), are they not??
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ER BN,

You obviously don't have much to do with training.
The Sims at the centres, BN and ML, are as you said. Unfortunately the ones at the College are not. And will not be.
This organisation is worse than you know.
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The college sim runs on Linux PCs, many functions from the real system just don't work or exist (can't create flight plans, Last Position, RER crashes the system) , and I'm told often crashes when used by more than a few trainees. It's a cheap imitation of the real eurocat system.
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Learning Academy SIM

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Re my distance from training.

You may just be surprised !!

RE: YOUR Unfortunately the ones at the College are not. And will not be.

Gee, I thought the great thrust of the Learning academy with regard to ATC training was to Eurocatise the "college SIM".

Supposed to be there by early 2009. I checked with a knowledgeable friend down south....

Apart from the 2560x1600 Eizo Main displays and 21" 1600 X 1200 Eizo Auxiliarys it will run on the Thales proprietry Linux system.

So the trainees get more pixels and faster processors that the ML/BN "high fidelity" simulators and the real controller consoles.

So could yourself, Gne or AVV please explain what more high tech could you want in a simulator (apart of course than better technology than the real thing, always a problem with simulators, of course).

Guess I'm doing a Pauline?? i.e. Please explain.??
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