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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 05:29
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Looking for the Manual of Air Traffic Services Part Two

Could anybody tell me where I can get the Manual of Air Traffic Services Part Two, I really appreaciate it!
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MATS Pt 2, confidential document that is specific to the unit concerned. I highly doubt you will be able to get one anywhere.
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If you mean you have lost your copy.. Where did you last have it? It can't just get up and walk off on its own?..
If you mean the UK MATS pt1, then try Civil Aviation Authority Home Page
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no chance.
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Shouldn't worry too much about part 2, the sequals are rarely as good as the original.
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namely here you can get part 1 http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP493Part1.pdf, and other publications are here List of Air Traffic Services Publications | Publications | CAA

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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 20:16
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I'm not sure that it's a "confidential" document, but the MATS part two is of no relavance to anyone but to the ATC team that work at any particular airport.
Even the UK CAA SRG haven't a working knowledge of individual unit's documents, they merely approve the initial document and subsequent changes.
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 20:19
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Niknak,
Mine certainly states "commercial in confidence" but I agree with your point
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All MATS Part 2s are specific to each (civil) ATC unit and certainly, in respect of NATS these are confidential documents which contain what's considered as being security-sensitive information, and are password-protected; they are not available to the 'general public' i.e. to non-NATS staff.

The CAA's Safety Regulator also has copies but as these are not the CAA's 'intellectual property' but are NATS' copyright, these MATS Part 2s are also, not available under the FOI.

Can't comment as regards other ANSPs, however.
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 21:29
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Ericliu,

The format generally followed in the UK is in the following document:
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP670.PDF
Pages 119 to 128.

Pages 111-113 also give some guidance on other things that we include in the UK.
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Old 22nd Jul 2008, 22:17
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Any NSL Part 2 is most certainly confidential. There was a spate a few years ago of certain ATC managers from other ATC providers in Europe trying all sorts of ruses in an attempt to get their hands on some of NSL's flagships units' Part 2s.
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Crikey Gonzo,

You mean the Spanish were after the part 2 for Gibraltar??
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Wink mats part one/two

forget these - it's the mats part three you need!!!
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