Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Ground & Other Ops Forums > ATC Issues
Reload this Page >

Heathrow runway change from 28L to 27L

Wikiposts
Search

Notices
ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.

Heathrow runway change from 28L to 27L

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 28th September 2010 | 19:06
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,266
Likes: 1
From: Berkshire, UK
I logged LH 727s there 1960-64, but they were probably there some years later.

BEA Daks, or Pionairs as they used to call them, were 1950s and the latest I logged one was 1960, although some were to be seen in the liveries of other airlines until some years later.

Aaahh.. thoses big stairs, not Panam SuperStairs perchance? They used to ferry them across to the Panam hangar and a colleague of mine used to sing:
"Here he comes, SuperStairs, going to the hangar to collect some spares".
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline  
Reply
Old 28th September 2010 | 20:28
  #22 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
From: Swindon, Wiltshire
Well yes, 'modellers licence' again having a BEA DC-3 and a Lufthansa 727 together which never would have met! The last BEA DC-3 service was indeed on 10th May 1962 between Islay-Cambletown-Glasgow and the first Lufthansa Boeing 727 service into LHR was in May 1964 (not before!). Since that photo was taken, I have since added Starways and British Westpoint Airlines DC-3s to the collection, which would be more authentic.
Amos Keeto is offline  
Reply
Old 29th September 2010 | 07:02
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,266
Likes: 1
From: Berkshire, UK
oooppss... sorry. You are correct about 727s. With my poor eyesight I was reading my logs for 720s.
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline  
Reply
Old 28th August 2015 | 09:25
  #24 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
From: Swindon, Wiltshire
Just an an 'ad on' to this, I am working on a book marking the 70th anniversary of Heathrow next year. Does anyone have any original prints of the official aerial views showing the BEA and BOAC engineering bases in the '50s and '60s that they would be kind enough to scan to include in this?
Amos Keeto is offline  
Reply
Old 28th August 2015 | 16:22
  #25 (permalink)  
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,344
Likes: 80
From: Bedford, UK
AK, how is it you haven't aged in 5 years
Mr Optimistic is offline  
Reply
Old 28th August 2015 | 17:43
  #26 (permalink)  
Community Builder
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 17,693
Likes: 2,033
From: Reading, UK
Originally Posted by Amos Keeto
Just an an 'ad on' to this, I am working on a book marking the 70th anniversary of Heathrow next year. Does anyone have any original prints of the official aerial views showing the BEA and BOAC engineering bases in the '50s and '60s that they would be kind enough to scan to include in this?
Have you looked at the photos in Ian Anderson's book?
DaveReidUK is online now  
Reply
Old 28th August 2015 | 18:14
  #27 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,901
Likes: 1
From: On the wireless...
Ian Anderson
Jethro Tull…?
Talkdownman is offline  
Reply
Old 28th August 2015 | 18:50
  #28 (permalink)  
Community Builder
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 17,693
Likes: 2,033
From: Reading, UK
No, the author of "Heathrow: From Tents to Terminal 5"

A different sort of living in the past.
DaveReidUK is online now  
Reply
Old 28th August 2015 | 19:16
  #29 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
From: That France
Bloody depressing is when you smile at reading some guys whose posts make reference to your era of music, then you realise why you shouldn't call them 'old guys'.
Minesthechevy is offline  
Reply
Old 28th August 2015 | 20:39
  #30 (permalink)  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 794
Likes: 21
From: England
Minesthechevy

That era of music will live on forever and not "in the past". You need to be "Thick as a Brick" not to appreciate it. I may have listened to some of it in your company.

Back to the subject thread. Back in July '87 I remember being involved in the planning of the 10/28 to 09/27 changeover. We hoped it wasn't going to rain on the night when the runway painted designators were changed and I believe it was dry. What a relief.

In those days the red/white holding point signs didn't have the designators, they just stated "Runway Ahead" so these didn't have to change. Nowadays all airport runway holding point red/white signs are required to show the runway designators, also some yellow/black info signs have runway numbers, so when magnetic variation changes require runway designations to change then there's a lot more for an airport to do than just repainting the runway numbers.

Time to listen again to "Aqualung" I think. Brilliant album
Musket90 is offline  
Reply
Old 28th August 2015 | 21:29
  #31 (permalink)  
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,344
Likes: 80
From: Bedford, UK
From Tents to Terminal 5?

With a title like that it must have flown off the shelves.
Mr Optimistic is offline  
Reply
Old 28th August 2015 | 22:34
  #32 (permalink)  
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
From: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
This discussion is deteriorating rapidly. So I'm going 'Up The 'Pool', 'Teacher', please give my regards to 'Dr. Bogenbroom'.
ZOOKER is offline  
Reply
Old 28th August 2015 | 23:15
  #33 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 441
Likes: 0
From: Rapunzel's tower
Off-topic but here's a pic of them swapping the RW28 designator to RW27 at London City....
http://www.navjot-singh.com/uploads/3/1/7/4/3174873/9630477_orig.jpg
good egg is offline  
Reply
Old 29th August 2015 | 06:53
  #34 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,266
Likes: 1
From: Berkshire, UK
Musket90.. were you Chef1, 2 or 3?
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline  
Reply
Old 29th August 2015 | 10:07
  #35 (permalink)  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 794
Likes: 21
From: England
HD - Affirm
Musket90 is offline  
Reply
Old 29th August 2015 | 11:58
  #36 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 8,266
Likes: 1
From: Berkshire, UK
We must have spoken many times on the wireless!

Take care and GL.. Brendan McCartney (Ex A Watch ATC).

Last edited by HEATHROW DIRECTOR; 29th August 2015 at 15:33.
HEATHROW DIRECTOR is offline  
Reply
Old 29th August 2015 | 17:54
  #37 (permalink)  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 794
Likes: 21
From: England
Yes I'm sure. Great times, great memories '87 to early '93

ATB
DMac
Musket90 is offline  
Reply
Old 30th August 2015 | 20:50
  #38 (permalink)  
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 421
Likes: 0
From: UK
Originally Posted by good egg
Off-topic but here's a pic of them swapping the RW28 designator to RW27 at London City....
http://www.navjot-singh.com/uploads/...30477_orig.jpg
ge, that's fabulous.

For those that didn't click through:

DaveW is offline  
Reply
Old 31st August 2015 | 15:50
  #39 (permalink)  
Community Builder
Community Influencer
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Aviation Qualifications: PPL
Posts: 12,446
Likes: 367
From: Wildest Surrey
There's nothing going on at the other end of the runway so presumably it became Runway 10/27!!
With the shadows to the east, it must've been a saturday afternoon.
chevvron is offline  
Reply
Old 31st August 2015 | 16:11
  #40 (permalink)  
Community Builder
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 17,693
Likes: 2,033
From: Reading, UK
Originally Posted by chevvron
With the shadows to the east, it must've been a saturday afternoon.
No way. That's an RAF Chinook, must have been a weekday (though not a Friday afternoon, obviously).
DaveReidUK is online now  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.