A small detail for UK NATS staff (National ID cards)
This is a scary prospect in UK
1 Governments who cannot be trusted - thats any likely governement not just this one. Different colour badge same type of person
2 Serial incompetence by Civil Servic and Government agencies on data security both as regards simple loss and more worryingly criminal intent
3 Police forces who are under pressure to meet targets- never mind the guilt feel the collar.
4 Police management? Why suppose they are any different to the type of manager so graphically portrayed in the T5 debacle , ie not real policemem , no interest in rights or wrongs just their career.
5 So all police MPs and senior civil servants can field trial ID cards for 5 years and then we the public can decide by referendum if we want them hows that-seems fair to me and it would give prominant peopel in the country a chance to show leadership too.
1 Governments who cannot be trusted - thats any likely governement not just this one. Different colour badge same type of person
2 Serial incompetence by Civil Servic and Government agencies on data security both as regards simple loss and more worryingly criminal intent
3 Police forces who are under pressure to meet targets- never mind the guilt feel the collar.
4 Police management? Why suppose they are any different to the type of manager so graphically portrayed in the T5 debacle , ie not real policemem , no interest in rights or wrongs just their career.
5 So all police MPs and senior civil servants can field trial ID cards for 5 years and then we the public can decide by referendum if we want them hows that-seems fair to me and it would give prominant peopel in the country a chance to show leadership too.
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C'mon people, this is an important issue and the lack of signatures on the petition is from my perspective somewhat worrying. Are we going to stand up for ourselvs or just bend over and let the government stick it straight up our ar$es.
Are we going to voice our opinions and object to this wholly inappropriate stealth introduction of this scheme
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http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/airsideid/
Are we going to voice our opinions and object to this wholly inappropriate stealth introduction of this scheme
Sign the petition
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/airsideid/
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http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/airsideid/
A quote from the thread currently in Jet Blast:
It isn't just about security and making Britain an illegal immigrant /terrorist free utopia. It's about control and how the government proposes to start exercising this control over its citizens by cleverly forcing a section of its workforce to submit to the forced introduction of this scheme under the guise of bettering the security of our nation, so that afterwards when they say it works the Big Brother will be watching every single one of us.
Sign the petition, forward it to your family and friends, get them to forward it to their friends let's at least put up some sort of fight, apathy will get us nowhere.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/airsideid/
A quote from the thread currently in Jet Blast:
Somehow the FAA got their hand on a list of all the people in California that has been issued a prescription for a list of certain medicines. These are medicines that means pilot should lose their medical. FAA then joined this list with their list of pilots, and tada pulled up some 200 people that appeared on both lists, ie current pilots with current medicals but who had received one of these medicines in the last 5 years.
All received a letter on their doormat asking them to explain.
It's this kind of large scale data mining that can be mega easy once we all have a SSN type number. Just join people who have bought a car worth more than £10K with people who declare annual earnings under £10K, and instantly find possible benefit cheats etc etc.
All received a letter on their doormat asking them to explain.
It's this kind of large scale data mining that can be mega easy once we all have a SSN type number. Just join people who have bought a car worth more than £10K with people who declare annual earnings under £10K, and instantly find possible benefit cheats etc etc.
Sign the petition, forward it to your family and friends, get them to forward it to their friends let's at least put up some sort of fight, apathy will get us nowhere.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/airsideid/
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Sign the petition, e-mail it to your friends and family, get them to e-mail it to their friends and family, lets make people aware that this is the start of the slippery slope into the compulsory introduction of this diabolical scheme for every man woman and child in the country.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/airsideid/
Jim McAusland - General Secretary, British Airline Pilots' Association
"The implication of not being able to work as a pilot without a UK ID is nothing short of coercion. It also raises questions about the many professional non-UK pilots flying for UK airlines who will not be able to secure an ID card.
On a practical level, and from what is known about the plans, this would be an additional requirement to the existing criminal record check, the five-year reference check, the airside pass process, which itself varies from airport to airport, and the inconsistent security regimes practised at check-in at individual airports. The combination of all of these existing checks is already seen by the majority of pilots as unco-ordinated, intrusive and unprofessional,
and has been shown in surveys to be highly stressful and a growing threat to flight safety. The home secretary's proposals offer no improvements in security or any other benefits, as far as we can see."
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/airsideid/
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/airsideid/
Jim McAusland - General Secretary, British Airline Pilots' Association
"The implication of not being able to work as a pilot without a UK ID is nothing short of coercion. It also raises questions about the many professional non-UK pilots flying for UK airlines who will not be able to secure an ID card.
On a practical level, and from what is known about the plans, this would be an additional requirement to the existing criminal record check, the five-year reference check, the airside pass process, which itself varies from airport to airport, and the inconsistent security regimes practised at check-in at individual airports. The combination of all of these existing checks is already seen by the majority of pilots as unco-ordinated, intrusive and unprofessional,
and has been shown in surveys to be highly stressful and a growing threat to flight safety. The home secretary's proposals offer no improvements in security or any other benefits, as far as we can see."
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/airsideid/
