Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing
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Subscriber-only content, unfortunately. What are they saying/predicting as the maximum wait-time?
Does anyone know what happens if the CASA clearance isn't in by the start date of the ATC training? Mine is going to need further investigation due to a previous diagnosis.
Also, I'm taking medication that is on the "Hazardous in Aviation" category (link), but will be finished before the ASA training starts. Will I need to have stopped using this prior to my medical, or would they take my start date into account?
Does anyone know what happens if the CASA clearance isn't in by the start date of the ATC training? Mine is going to need further investigation due to a previous diagnosis.
Also, I'm taking medication that is on the "Hazardous in Aviation" category (link), but will be finished before the ASA training starts. Will I need to have stopped using this prior to my medical, or would they take my start date into account?
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In relation to your age, although there is no restriction, if you are over 35 then your chances of success are diminished and if 40 the success rate is less than 5%! As you said in your post not wanting to be melancholy, just factual.
Does anyone know if people in their 30s regularly get accepted onto these courses or is it unusual. Not put off by the ageism
Just would like to know from anyone who has completed the course in the last few years.
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People in their 30s (and 40s) do get regularly accepted. Airservices are not ageist.
The quote re the success rate is absolutely correct though. A big part of the learning is developing the right mindset and 'instincts' which becomes more difficult with age.
The adage,'You can't teach old dogs new tricks' is very true.
The quote re the success rate is absolutely correct though. A big part of the learning is developing the right mindset and 'instincts' which becomes more difficult with age.
The adage,'You can't teach old dogs new tricks' is very true.
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Try again...
Pilots face grounding over medical delays
Almost 1000 pilots are facing delays of two months or more to receive the medical certificates they need to fly because of a mammoth backlog within the aviation regulator’s new online medical portal.
About 170 pilots are also within 14 days of having their medical certificates expire — which will *effectively ground them and put them out of work — as the backlog continues to grow and slow down the processing system.
The logjam was created with the introduction of Civil Aviation Safety Authority’s online medical records system, which has been in operation since March 21. The new system was meant to streamline the application process and create a repository of pilot medical records for future use but teething problems with the system has instead created a slowdown that is now affecting hundreds of pilots.
The new system is processing about 1700 medical certificates a month, down from the 2000 a month that the old system was capable of issuing.
The delays mean there is now a backlog of about 900 pilots who are being told to expect waits of two months to receive their certificates. In about 400 cases, some are being told the wait is even longer.
Almost 1000 pilots are facing delays of two months or more to receive the medical certificates they need to fly because of a mammoth backlog within the aviation regulator’s new online medical portal.
About 170 pilots are also within 14 days of having their medical certificates expire — which will *effectively ground them and put them out of work — as the backlog continues to grow and slow down the processing system.
The logjam was created with the introduction of Civil Aviation Safety Authority’s online medical records system, which has been in operation since March 21. The new system was meant to streamline the application process and create a repository of pilot medical records for future use but teething problems with the system has instead created a slowdown that is now affecting hundreds of pilots.
The new system is processing about 1700 medical certificates a month, down from the 2000 a month that the old system was capable of issuing.
The delays mean there is now a backlog of about 900 pilots who are being told to expect waits of two months to receive their certificates. In about 400 cases, some are being told the wait is even longer.
Eric is correct, in the end it all comes down to whether you meet the standard or not. That's all that counts. You at 40 will find it harder than you at 20 as you get slower with age and further from having studied intensely. But you at 40 might find it easier than someone else at 20. It all comes down to the individual - you sink or swim on your merits and won't be cut any slack.
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APB11,
Give CASA medical a call and speak to Georgie, She is amazing. I personally and a few of my colleagues have used her throughout our complicated processes and her assistance has been invaluable! Ask specifically how long after completion of taking the medicine before you will be eligible for your medical? What clearance documentation will they require?
Preferably get it in writing!!!
With a lot of medicine on the do not take list, you can finish taking it and get your medical a few days later (with the appropriately worded clearance from your doctor). Otherwise, there are some (don't ask me the name... can't remember) that can be a period of 6 months after taking before you are cleared.
As for ASA, I can only go off what I have read. My assumption is that if you are unable to ascertain your medical within the required time and you inform them they "should" delay you for a later course.
Best of luck mate, and if you need some help with CASA medical feel free to PM me, I may not be able to do much but you never know!
Give CASA medical a call and speak to Georgie, She is amazing. I personally and a few of my colleagues have used her throughout our complicated processes and her assistance has been invaluable! Ask specifically how long after completion of taking the medicine before you will be eligible for your medical? What clearance documentation will they require?
Preferably get it in writing!!!
With a lot of medicine on the do not take list, you can finish taking it and get your medical a few days later (with the appropriately worded clearance from your doctor). Otherwise, there are some (don't ask me the name... can't remember) that can be a period of 6 months after taking before you are cleared.
As for ASA, I can only go off what I have read. My assumption is that if you are unable to ascertain your medical within the required time and you inform them they "should" delay you for a later course.
Best of luck mate, and if you need some help with CASA medical feel free to PM me, I may not be able to do much but you never know!
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Hi KTMRL. Airservices does not consider age when looking at applicants either for abinitio or experienced recruits. For experienced applicants what is taken into consideration is experience levels and relevance of experience to where controllers are needed.
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Thanks Renegade154. I think I'll give it a try.
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Course start date
Hi guys,
Good luck to those still applying.
I have a course start date of 19 September 2016 in Melbourne for Tower only and then off to Perth Tower.
Anyone else at the academy at that time? PM me and hopefully can meet up over a beer.
Thanks
Good luck to those still applying.
I have a course start date of 19 September 2016 in Melbourne for Tower only and then off to Perth Tower.
Anyone else at the academy at that time? PM me and hopefully can meet up over a beer.
Thanks
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Applying as experienced
Hi all,
New to the forum, and would like to add to the list of nervous nellies.
Applications closed recently, and I see a lot of you checking your application status. I can't seem to find anywhere to do that. I tried looking where I applied, but my login won't work. Is there a separate link I need to check my status?
Otherwise am I just waiting for the testing?
Thanks,
New to the forum, and would like to add to the list of nervous nellies.
Applications closed recently, and I see a lot of you checking your application status. I can't seem to find anywhere to do that. I tried looking where I applied, but my login won't work. Is there a separate link I need to check my status?
Otherwise am I just waiting for the testing?
Thanks,
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Hey everyone I wanted to share my timeline because it varies so much from person to person and it helped me not to lose my mind during the long periods of silence to see what other people have gone through. Good luck to everyone still waiting to hear back!
23/02/16 Application submitted
26/02/16 Invite to online tests
7/03/16 OPQ invite
29/03/16 Phone interview
8/04/16 Assessment centre invite
5/05/16 Assessment centre
10/05/16 Reference check advised
17/05/16 Reference check complete
10/06/16 Verbal offer
13/06/16 Medical commence
22/06/16 Medical submitted to CASA
1/07/16 Written offer
3/08/16 Medical certificate granted
4/10/16 Start Date
23/02/16 Application submitted
26/02/16 Invite to online tests
7/03/16 OPQ invite
29/03/16 Phone interview
8/04/16 Assessment centre invite
5/05/16 Assessment centre
10/05/16 Reference check advised
17/05/16 Reference check complete
10/06/16 Verbal offer
13/06/16 Medical commence
22/06/16 Medical submitted to CASA
1/07/16 Written offer
3/08/16 Medical certificate granted
4/10/16 Start Date
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Thanks pineapples. That's a huge help. The application posting closed on the 31st, so now it's just a waiting game. But it's nice to,have an idea of the overall timings once it gets rolling.
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Visit Sydney Tower
I am heading to an assessment centre in a month or so and would like to visit an ATC in Sydney beforehand, but when I called ASA they said the general public were not allowed and that I needed to know someone. Can anyone recommend how I can organize a tour/visit?
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Hey everyone, just had my phone interview today for grad ATC. Felt like it went alright, it was my first ever phone interview though so don't really have anything to compare it to. Pretty relaxed, asked 2 questions about my interest in the job, and 3 behavioral questions, went for about 15 minutes.
I asked some questions at the end - apparently the October assessment day(s) are being run from Brisbane, and November is looking like Brisbane as well but could be Melbourne. Also looking at a course starting mid to end of next year.
Good luck to anyone else still in the application process!
I asked some questions at the end - apparently the October assessment day(s) are being run from Brisbane, and November is looking like Brisbane as well but could be Melbourne. Also looking at a course starting mid to end of next year.
Good luck to anyone else still in the application process!