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Old 26th Nov 2012, 22:22
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I lived in Canada for 3 years and I can tell you for sure that the Canadian accent is, in fact, damn hot.
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Old 27th Nov 2012, 04:04
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Thanks for the info. In the US 31years is the cut off. I saw they had a bid out for international controllers, you guys must be hurting with staffing!
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Old 27th Nov 2012, 04:07
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Has anyone who applied for the experienced controller position that was previously advertised heard anything yet?
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Old 27th Nov 2012, 04:47
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im one of the applicant buddy, but till now no progress. they told me to wait an email notification online skill test.
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Old 27th Nov 2012, 08:37
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fish ASA Experienced

I also applied for the role for experienced ATCOs in Perth and Sydney and so far no news at all...
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Old 28th Nov 2012, 06:33
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Me too.....anybody know the pay for perth and sydney?
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Old 28th Nov 2012, 09:14
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Hi hawaii808. Air traffic controller | Airservices follow this link , at the bottom of the page is the 2009-2012 collective agreemen which has the pay scale in . If I may ask did you apply for an Approach or Tower position?
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Old 28th Nov 2012, 11:36
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current salaries

Applications closed on 18-October, I understand that a Recognition of Prior Learning/Training Needs Analysis have commenced for the first batch of applications that have been reviewed.

Salaries effective from Saturday 1-December

* = current salaries plus 2.6%
SY TTCU really means Level 10 but only available to Sydney Tower & Sydney TCU staff (after they reaching level 9 in the pay scale).**
UTS means Unit Tower Supervisor (Metro D Towers (eg Bankstown, Jandakot), Regional D Towers (eg Alice Springs, Broome)
CSS / SS means Check Controller / System Supervisor
SY CSS/Supervisor means Check Controller / Supervisor but only available to Sydney Tower & Sydney TCU staff.

** Level 1 on rating then annual increments (subject to certain criteria being met).

There is a separate agreement for ATC Line Managers, current minimum of $160,000 but this agreement is under review/negotiation.

you guys must be hurting with staffing
Yes, need experienced staff for Sydney and Perth, other locations are getting staff through the ab-initio program (about 12 months college, about 4 months on the job).

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Old 28th Nov 2012, 12:01
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Thanks for the updated info sunnySA. I applied for Sydney TWR, hoping to get some feedback soon. Do you have any knowledge on how successful the recruitment was in terms of number of applicants?
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Old 28th Nov 2012, 14:24
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Movement Monitor - Sydney

Anyone know anything about the Movement Monitor positions currently being advertised? Never heard of this position before. Is it a newly created position?

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Old 28th Nov 2012, 16:08
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i applied for approach. The pay scale, does that mean at sydney you start out at 180 grand?
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Old 28th Nov 2012, 18:16
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As far as I see it, No. As sunnySA said the SY TTCU is basically level 10, IE. 10 years experience but only for people at Sydney, other stations max out at level 9. we have a scale that works in a similar way here, each level is basically a year of experience, if you have 5years experience I would imagine/hope ASA would start you on level 5 etc.
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Old 28th Nov 2012, 19:20
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Anyone know anything about the Movement Monitor positions currently being advertised? Never heard of this position before. Is it a newly created position?
Movement Monitor positions are new and count aircraft movements to ensure that the current maximum of 80 movements per hour is not breached.

if you have 5years experience I would imagine/hope ASA would start you on level 5 etc
5years experience may directly translate to level 5, it could be a lower figure eg 5-7 years experience might translate to level 5. Often it is level X whilst training and then level X+1 once fully rated.
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Old 28th Nov 2012, 19:35
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hi sunnySA, do you have any perquisite than base salary?
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 04:43
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Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing

History suggests that previous international recruits have not all been successful (anecdotally ~60% pass...I hear that a while ago one US ex-regional tower controller was expected to rate on procedural enroute...)

My point being, have a backup plan. If you are a current ATC, don't burn your bridges, and if you don't have very recent experience I'd say you are probably unlikely to be offered employment anyway.

Just saying, :-)
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 06:25
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History suggests that previous international recruits have not all been successful (anecdotally ~60% pass...I hear that a while ago one US ex-regional tower controller was expected to rate on procedural enroute...)
Hopefully consigned to history, the SY & PH positions are TMA (and TWR) specific. I seriously doubt someone being offered employment if
a/ the haven't worked TMA in a busy environment (Eurocat experience would be highly regarded);
b/ RPL/TNA identifies any issues (doubt exists about the ability of a person to rate) as wasting a training slot would be very wasteful (and very hard on the individual, messy from a HR point of view).
History does indicate that recruitments take much longer than most people think. No news is no news, 26 sleeps to christmas, then there is the Xmas/New Year holiday season!!

My point being, have a backup plan. If you are a current ATC, don't burn your bridges
Good advice.
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 07:39
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If i am accepted and things go sour unfortunetly i wont be accepted back to my current employer. My ANSP is currently refusing to accept ex employees back from the UAE, i suppose to try intimidate people into not leaving. Does anyone know what the training is for experienced controllers, at the college specifically? Is it just a short conversion course, how do assessments work with regards to reassessments and failures, is it one chance,fail and your gone?
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 09:14
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History suggests that previous international recruits have not all been successful
One of the tower blippies at the academy is an ex-approach controller from Taipei, who's English wasn't up to scratch after she did the conversion course. She's a great blippy, and I reckon there's nothing wrong with her English now, but it's a perfect example of a backup plan.
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 10:07
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hello steve

hi steve, are you work in brisbane center?
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 22:08
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I'm another one of the applicants for SY tower, have completed the Recognition of Prior Learning/Training Needs Analysis tests about a week ago. Still no news, although the email I received when they sent the links out mentioned they would get in touch during the first week of December.

In saying that, a mate of mine who also applied finished the testing last night, and has already got a reply from them (!!) advising that the next stage is the phone interview and to organise a time. So who knows, I'm just gonna sit tight until the end of next week for now.

My application is still showing "Application under review." I guess that's better than being unsuccessful huh
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