Wikiposts
Search
ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.

Maastricht

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 17th Dec 2007, 10:07
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Europe
Age: 52
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Maastricht

HI all,

It's been very quiet on the conversion subject.

Anybody has been called yet for the interview or are they waiting for the closing date i.e tommorow ?
mtnova is offline  
Old 17th Dec 2007, 17:12
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: P@$#ing distance from 2 borders
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
mtnova,

The answer is the 2nd part of your question
The Euronator is offline  
Old 17th Dec 2007, 17:28
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Europe
Age: 52
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs up Euronator

Cheers m8,


Thank you for the reply. I presumed so.


Take care
mtnova
mtnova is offline  
Old 17th Dec 2007, 17:31
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: P@$#ing distance from 2 borders
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Probably add a couple of weeks after the closing date for a response..it is a slow moving wheel , especially with the festive season upon us.
The Euronator is offline  
Old 17th Dec 2007, 20:34
  #5 (permalink)  
Pardoned PPRuNer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: GlassGumtree
Posts: 387
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Can you believe Black Pete and the Saint found us here - what are the chances!

TT
TrafficTraffic is offline  
Old 17th Dec 2007, 21:12
  #6 (permalink)  

More than just an ATCO
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Up someone's nose
Age: 75
Posts: 1,768
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hear there's a few from Manchester probably going to be disappointed.

TT Merry Christmas mate, don't staty out in the sun too long
Lon More is offline  
Old 17th Dec 2007, 21:48
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: P@$#ing distance from 2 borders
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
TT

Thats a Bloody long boat trip
The Euronator is offline  
Old 17th Dec 2007, 22:17
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: The frequency jungle
Posts: 975
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I see on their website that they're employing ATCOS from Eurocontrol member states only. What if you were employed by a Eurocontrol member state but don't carry the passport? I did send them an email to ask, but haven't heard anything as yet.
126,7 is offline  
Old 17th Dec 2007, 22:55
  #9 (permalink)  
Pardoned PPRuNer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: GlassGumtree
Posts: 387
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thats a Bloody long boat trip
....must have taken a wrong turn near Alicante....

Lon Check Your PM's

Eurocontrol may well be surprised with the large number of applicants they receive.

And for those of you needing it - I know Euronator has a room (albeit smelling slightly of smoke) for you to rent (at a reasonable rate no doubt) whilst being assaulted on your Brussels Sectors Training course.....

They really are the *best controllers in the world the Brussels boys and girls working some of the busiest and most complex airspace around.

TT


*They told me so
TrafficTraffic is offline  
Old 18th Dec 2007, 05:12
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: middle earth
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi Lon

What's the rumour with the Manchester disappointments?
All gossip is good gossip.
Too many applicants not enough places? Or more political?

Ta
northernmonkey1261 is offline  
Old 18th Dec 2007, 05:22
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The World
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I applied early on in the piece and was asked to prove that I was an EU national as I am from Oz. I sent back proof and have had my information checked through a guy I work with that is well known to Eurocontrol.

Does anyone know if they are more likely to select people that already live in the EU or if it will be experience/merit based? I am pretty keen to move to Eurocontrol and am getting a bit edgy.

On a different note I am a keen golfer and am wondering if anyone can tell me what the new Maastricht International course is like.
west atc is offline  
Old 18th Dec 2007, 07:21
  #12 (permalink)  
Pardoned PPRuNer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: GlassGumtree
Posts: 387
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
wondering if anyone can tell me what the new Maastricht International course is like
Expensive and far from international

TT
TrafficTraffic is offline  
Old 18th Dec 2007, 07:47
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The World
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think its called "international" because it crosses the border. I was wondering if it was a good quality course.
Does anyone have any idea of how many applicants there has been?
west atc is offline  
Old 18th Dec 2007, 08:00
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: The frequency jungle
Posts: 975
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Here is their answer:

I confirm that you have to have a citizenship of one of our Member States to be selected for one of our post.

Best regards,


Irčne Piraino
DHA/Info Centre
Directorate of Human Resources and Administration
Tel: +32 2 729.50.50
Fax: +32 2 729.90.69
126,7 is offline  
Old 18th Dec 2007, 11:01
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: belgium
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There are around 20 application from Belgocontrol ATCOs.
We are especially impatient for the result, because Eurocontrol has a what they call a gentlemen agreement with Belgocontrol although they have never heard of the "Bosman" arrest .
We earn the same money as the guys from Maastricht but we have to pay 50% taxes on it. This is one of the reasons why we all applied for the job in Maastricht. We are used to work the Brussels sectors though it is the lower part of it, but the Brussels East is one of the most dense and complex in Europe, and we work already in close coordination with Maastricht.
bruman is offline  
Old 19th Dec 2007, 07:09
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The World
Posts: 136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What sort of experience do the applicants from Belgium have?

I am wondering if anything will be found out by the end of this week or if it won't be until after the new year. It sounds like there has been a fair few applications which won't please the aussies who were hoping that the positions wouldn't be filled by EU applications so it might be open to non-EU applications eventually.

Does anyone know how many positions will be filled? Will they take as many as they can that are deemed suitable or is there a limited number of places?

I remember hearing something about 8 positions but don't know how true this is. It must be a good place to work if there are so many applications.
west atc is offline  
Old 19th Dec 2007, 10:37
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There are 10 places vacant and the last I heard there were 194 applicants
Good luck
millerman is offline  
Old 19th Dec 2007, 13:26
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: NeverLand
Age: 24
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Roger on the 10 positions open, same thing I heard.

Seems like the figured out that's the magic number of conversions we can train before our own ab-initios overflow the ops-room. We need that many people, but we only have that many consoles to get people to train on (an educated guess but 3 trainees per team at 6 teams per sector makes 18 students at a time per sector group and that's a lot of people being coached ergo lots of coaches also needed...)

A.
andrijander is offline  
Old 19th Dec 2007, 14:34
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: deep blue somewhere
Age: 50
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Come on Euronator give us those numbers
levelD is offline  
Old 19th Dec 2007, 15:15
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: P@$#ing distance from 2 borders
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
LevelD

I can confirm 10 Conversion Positions with 2 staggered intakes (ie 6 & 4).
1st intake will begin in Maastricht in 3rd week in March 2008. The 2nd intake will commence in 2nd week in July 2008.

I believe that interviews will start as early as 2nd week in January to allow as much time for people to give notice.

There has been a rush of applicants close to deadline & Millermans information is very very close to the mark.

As andrijander described this will be the only shot for Conversion Controllers as the process to increase Students in the Luxembourg courses has already commenced. The increased intakes are due to arrive late 2008/ early 2009.
They will then be only focusing on training Student Air Traffic Controllers.
The maximum capacity to train controllers in the OPS room will be reached in 2009. Therefore there will be No Conversion Courses after these.

West ATC, I doubt with the amount of applicants that they will open up to Non-EU nationals.
The Euronator is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.