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Old 19th Jun 2007, 16:48
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GPS it is then.... just need the lat/long. (no need to consult a map.... ye gods! What AM i saying??
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Oh Chevvers - you could have least have given the directions in via the Officers Mess, Woppity Way, K Shed tarmac etc etc.......!

Spoilsport.
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You wife obviously hasn't told you the Officers Mess is no more; there's now a 5 storey hotel being built on the site.
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I don't need to get that info from my wife: I have an airside ID still and visit occasionally dear boy. Not only taking piccies for Mercedes-Benz but checking up on you.

Call it on "off watch check" mate.
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Old 20th Jun 2007, 15:17
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Advert for extra staff going in 'Flight' next week.
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Old 20th Jun 2007, 17:42
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Ad for extra staff in Flight??

I thought NATS was very anti open external recruitment
I know a few units have recruited directly (EGPD, EGPF) but have never known NATS to put an ad in for specific positions

Where would this LARS service be based? Farnbrough? or spread round the NATS units round the TMA?

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Old 20th Jun 2007, 17:54
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Originally Posted by lord of the zones
Where would this LARS service be based? Farnbrough?
Yup.


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Old 20th Jun 2007, 22:31
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Do any of the instructional staff at CATC remember ATSOCAS?
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 08:09
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Originally Posted by AlanM
Anyone able to give them some spare squawks?
The military have been 'persuaded' to give up 16 they hardly ever use

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Originally Posted by BEXIL160
WHERE are the extra ATCOs coming from to supply this "new" service?
One already drafted in, 4 more to come. 3 sectors operating 08-20 UTC Mon-Sun.

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Old 21st Jun 2007, 09:53
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Do any of the instructional staff at CATC remember ATSOCAS?
Some of the older ex mil ones might just remember it but the others? They may have a grasp on the black and white rules but they certainly do not understand how to exploit said rules to both their and the aircrafts advantage.

Having said that, I think that the guys at Farnborough have more than enough experience and skill to teach it on the job. LARS and ATSOCAS is not difficult per se, though it can be overwhelming on account of sheer number of talking units... the real skill is in integrating LARS traffic, sometimes under a FIS or RIS, with traffic under a RAS being vectored for approach etc.

Good fun, but worth a little bit more credit on the weighting scale.
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 11:08
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I asked
WHERE are the extra ATCOs coming from to supply this "new" service?
BD replied

One already drafted in, 4 more to come. 3 sectors operating 08-20 UTC Mon-Sun
The question was Where from? not how many?.

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Old 21st Jun 2007, 11:53
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Originally Posted by BEXIL160
The question was Where from? not how many?.
1 currently not in a controlling job in NATS but has a yellow peril, the remaining 4 I'd don't know but the 1 I mentioned was only told yesterday.

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Old 21st Jun 2007, 12:23
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One already drafted in
You mean that Mobility Clause was used? Can't have that, can we? Did I not read somewhere here recently that it was illegal?
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 14:47
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Oh dear BEXIL's getting jealous; one from Cardiff and one from Bristol if you must know; a third is tower only (no APS rating)
Why don't you volunteer Bex? The advert should be in 'Flight' next tuesday.
Anotherthing: at least 4 instructors at the college are ex Farnborough; possibly more but I don't know how many have retired recently.
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 16:26
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Why don't you volunteer Bex?]
How do you know I haven't?

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Old 21st Jun 2007, 16:46
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How do you know I haven't?
Because you are far too sensible/too expensive to do that!
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 16:59
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well 'anotherthing', FBO have got naff all chance then. Skill at integrating VFR FIS traffic with RAS inbounds - I see precious little of that..

Oh sorry, you meant integrate their traffic and stuff the rest of us didn't you?

Apologies to those who do help on a regular basis, I'm sure that you know the others to whom I'm referring
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Old 21st Jun 2007, 19:03
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It doesn't help when you have stringent noise abatement procedures for arrivals and departures which you can only cancel under pain of death, then someone decides to put a load of temporary helicopter routes in the way without consulting you.
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