Land after

[hangten]

I think Heathrow is the only UK place that has " after the landing xxx, cleared to land rwy xx"

No, definitely Gatwick too, and I'm pretty sure Manchester.

[loubylou]

Not Manchester , only a land after clearance. I thought Heathrow was the only place that could issue a " after the landing xx, cleared to to land rwy xx", must have changed!

louby

[hangten]

That's interesting, how about 'After the departing, cleared to land'?

[terrain safe]

That's interesting, how about 'After the departing, cleared to land'?

Stansted do it, as do Heathrow and Gatwick I believe.

[fireflybob]

Am surprised that some pilots do not understand "Land after" - this should be covered in basic training as it indeed was when I did mine in 1969!

[loubylou]

Hangten - nope - not anymore

louby

[SilentHandover]

Taken from the latest AIP amendment.
GEN 3.3.3

"(c) Conditions of Use. The procedures will be used by DAY only under the following conditions:
London Heathrow and London Stansted
(i) When the reported meteorological conditions are equal to or better than a visibility of 6 km and a cloud ceiling of
1000 ft and the Air Controller is satisfied that the pilot of the next arriving aircraft will be able to observe
continuously the relevant traffic.
(ii) When both the preceding and succeeding aircraft are being operated in the normal manner. (Pilots are
responsible for notifying ATC if they are operating their aircraft in other than the normal manner; eg final approach
speed greater than 160 kt).
(iii) When the runway is dry and free of all precipitants such that there is no evidence that the braking action may be
adversely affected.
(iv) When the Air Controller is able to assess the separation either visually or by means of Aerodrome Traffic Monitor.
London Gatwick
(i) When 26L/08R is in use;
(ii) When the controller is satisfied that the pilot of the next arriving aircraft will be able to observe the relevant traffic
clearly and continuously;
(iii) When the pilot of the following aircraft is warned;
(iv) When there is no evidence that the braking action may be adversely affected;
(v) When the controller is able to assess separation visually or by radar derived information.
Manchester
(i) When the reported meteorological conditions are equal to or better than a visibility of 6 km and a cloud ceiling of
1000 ft.
(ii) When both the preceding and succeeding aircraft are being operated in the normal manner. (Pilots are
responsible for notifying ATC if they are operating their aircraft in other than the normal manner; eg final approach
speed greater than 160 kt).
(iii) When the runway is dry and free of all precipitants such that there is no evidence that the braking action may be
adversely affected.
(iv) When the Air Controller is able to assess the separation visually.
(d) When issuing a landing clearance following the application of these procedures ATC will issue the second aircraft with
the following instructions:
London Heathrow and London Gatwick
...... (call sign) ....... after the landing/departing ....... (Aircraft Type) cleared to land Runway ....... (Designator).
Manchester and London Stansted
....... (call sign) ....... after the departing ....... (Aircraft Type) cleared to land Runway ........ (Designator). "

[loubylou]

Silent - not any more

louby