Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Ground & Other Ops Forums > ATC Issues
Reload this Page >

Italian ATC strike Tuesday 22 May

Wikiposts
Search
ATC Issues A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.

Italian ATC strike Tuesday 22 May

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 22nd May 2007, 08:39
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Thailand
Posts: 942
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Italian ATC strike Tuesday 22 May

I am amazed that the Italians can call a strike with almost no notice to their users/customers. Don't the EU have rules about that sort of thing? Oh, I forgot, this is Italy.
All flights between 0800 and 1600 local have been cancelled.
The cancellations affects many hundreds of AC Milan fans who have flights and game tickets booked for today. I don't suppose the ATC staff have engendered too much sympathy with the Italian public!


reason for edit, wrong footy team!! Thanks.

Last edited by rubik101; 22nd May 2007 at 12:25.
rubik101 is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 08:57
  #2 (permalink)  

FX Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Greenwich
Age: 67
Posts: 900
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
And this on a day when the Italian government says it is willing to sell its entire 49.9 percent stake in Alitalia.

If you're interested, you have until July 2 to put in a binding offer.....don't all rush at once.
angels is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 09:09
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: heathrow
Posts: 294
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i shouldn`t think the inter fans give a toss - its the AC Milan fans who might have to get in their cars
cjhants is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 09:12
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Apologies my legal knowledge could be better. Are there any EU regulations covering industrial action that could be applied here?

If there are, surely compensation claims could be made?

Thanks
MB27 is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 09:49
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Limbricht
Posts: 2,194
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
But don't for one moment consider WHY they have had to resort to strike action will you MB27. Let me tell you that after 34 years loyal service, the way I've been treated by my employers in the past couple of years, I wouldn't hesitate to go on strike if the reason was valid. And do you know what, I couldn't give a toss for my customers anymore, simply because I know that they (just like you MB27) don't give a toss about me!

Apologies for rant. Just back from holiday and now have to go back to the stress of working for an organisation that's rapidly going down the drain due to unqualified and highly incompetent management. Roll on retirement!
Avman is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 10:58
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sorry Avman, but you are out of line. I have no knowledge of your problems with your employer. I have not voiced any opinion over the situation, regardless of whether I support the action or not. I have not made any negative comments. Therefore I have no idea why you are aiming your response directly at me.

I do however, know 50-100 pax due to fly back today to the UK, on various flights today. This (of course) is the No1 concern in my mind at present. The short notice of this strike is causing chaos for thousands who are not even aware of your problems.

Therefore I have asked a sensible question to try and gauge the financial implications today will have.

I would care for you if you voice your opinion in an appropriate fashion, which you have not. Apologies, but your ranting will only cause further negative opinions over the strike. Why can't you voice your opinion properly, then I probably would be very sympathetic towards you.
MB27 is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 11:02
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 724
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
And this on a day when the Italian government says it is willing to sell its entire 49.9 percent stake in Alitalia.
If you're interested, you have until July 2 to put in a binding offer.....don't all rush at once.
Wow...Ok, here is my offer: $13,50 for the whole lot. Anyone?
fox niner is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 11:09
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: STN
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Maybe Ryanair should forget about EI and go for AZ .
DONTTELLTHEPAX is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 11:37
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: UK
Age: 59
Posts: 2,715
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Anybody know if there are any more days of this planned?
Wycombe is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 13:23
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: SE UK
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hopefully not.
we are stranded here trying to get a poorly plane home. if it carries on 2morro and i cant get home for the match, i can at least watch it here in milan.......with my liverpool shirt on.

on a serious not, us and our ops seem to think it ends at 6pm Local tis eve.

does anyone know why they have called the strike?
I heard it was beacuse it was a sunny day outside..........
Dozza2k is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 13:30
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Limbricht
Posts: 2,194
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
MB27, look at your first post again
If there are, surely compensation claims could be made?
and try and understand how this may read to someone who doesn't have the benefit of reading what's in your mind. Your second post explains more clearly the reason behind your question.

As for strikes, I'm afraid that for a strike to be effective it needs to be at short notice and it needs to inconvenience a whole load of people. It's otherwise a complete waste of time.

Expect more strikes this Summer, and not just in Italy!
Avman is offline  
Old 22nd May 2007, 16:42
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Apologies Avman, I do see how my one-liner could seem rather unemotional.

Thanks for your reply.
MB27 is offline  
Old 23rd May 2007, 15:33
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Italy
Age: 42
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
that's Italy!! Everyone strikes here.. today I strike, tomorrow you strike and the day after tomorrow someone else will strike.. it's not possibile..I do not know the specific reason of the ENAV strike but can surely say that in Italy there are too many protected categories..when the government "touches" one of these categories, off they are the next day striking everywhere...I wonder if this happens in other countries too..

and anyways.... FORZA MILAN!
fabrifx is offline  
Old 29th May 2007, 08:07
  #14 (permalink)  
C05
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hot as Hell
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
c05

I think u r the 1 2 apologise m37, Im sure there was a lead up 2 this action, and it was not a spur of the moment thing??? Think about flight safety 4 all those passengers that u show so much concern 4??? Wrking under added stress, does not allow 4 great flight safety??? But of course its just another buck, that u have not made!!! This is not the 1st, and wont b the last industrial action from ATCS world wide???
C05 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.