Ha Ha Ha, We're off to Kandahar!
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Interesting - so does the Oz government get paid for providing RAAF services under the contract? Or is the contract not awarded because the RAAF is volunteering to do it?
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Wow
SAS,
I don't think the RAAF can even provide enough controllers to run 24hr ops there. If they were going to get it, it would be in conjunction with another military force of ATC's. I reckon the contract will go ahead to a civil organisation, just like Kandahar up the road. In fact KBR already have the contract and are only looking for a sub-contractor to provide ATC services. As good as your info is, I don't think it's correct.
Hamo
I don't think the RAAF can even provide enough controllers to run 24hr ops there. If they were going to get it, it would be in conjunction with another military force of ATC's. I reckon the contract will go ahead to a civil organisation, just like Kandahar up the road. In fact KBR already have the contract and are only looking for a sub-contractor to provide ATC services. As good as your info is, I don't think it's correct.
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My understanding is that the Oz Govt. is to get "compensation" for providing the service, and Hamo, that was what I thought 
Going back to my source to-night to confirm, maybe it's just wishfull thinking on behalf of the RAAF.
Fox3 you motor head, where you when we need you, and the answer is not "in sunny Spain"
SAS
Going back to my source to-night to confirm, maybe it's just wishfull thinking on behalf of the RAAF.
Fox3 you motor head, where you when we need you, and the answer is not "in sunny Spain"
SAS
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Source confirms there are "talks" going on within the RAAF about a deployment to Kandahar. Not sure exactly what that means, but evidently the talks are taking place very high up the food chain.
SAS
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Heh heh! No internet access where I was in sunny Spain, thank goodness though as the responses may have been soaked in Sangria 
Now HamoAus and Somniferous where were we.....
Now HamoAus and Somniferous where were we.....
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RAAF ATC aren't going, that's about as simple as I can put it.
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Well, there's two RAAF ATC about to leave or already on their way to the high hills and dim lights of Kandahar. I don't know why (I've been out of the big blue supermarket for a couple of years), but I suspect that, if AIRDEF is about to set up shop there, then the ATCO's are for liason/coordination and to make sure that the airdefendo's don't completely embarass themselves.
Or they could be an advance party to scout equipment levels, accomodation and the general set-up of the place prior to ATC deployment.
If RAAF ATC do go, I just hope it's not as part of a Combat Support Squadron type-set-up like was in Baghdad. What a joke that was. Sixty 'support' personnel whose only job was to whinge, whine and stamp their feet when they had to do anything outside of their 9 - 4 day (or anything at all for that matter); an attitude fully supported by the joke of an executive, led by a NAV CO. Better get back in my box before I smash my keyboard. At least the ATC was done well.
Or they could be an advance party to scout equipment levels, accomodation and the general set-up of the place prior to ATC deployment.
If RAAF ATC do go, I just hope it's not as part of a Combat Support Squadron type-set-up like was in Baghdad. What a joke that was. Sixty 'support' personnel whose only job was to whinge, whine and stamp their feet when they had to do anything outside of their 9 - 4 day (or anything at all for that matter); an attitude fully supported by the joke of an executive, led by a NAV CO. Better get back in my box before I smash my keyboard. At least the ATC was done well.
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Ho hum....
Still no news eh...???? 
If you do go you may need this.........
KANDAHAR MID AIR COLLISION AVOIDANCE (MACA)HANDBOOK
http://ramcc.dtic.mil/forms/Kandahar_MACA_Pamphlet.pdf
And don't forget:
'Wear of a weapon is mandatory with the exception of jogging or in the Fitness Tent'
If you do go you may need this.........
KANDAHAR MID AIR COLLISION AVOIDANCE (MACA)HANDBOOK
http://ramcc.dtic.mil/forms/Kandahar_MACA_Pamphlet.pdf
And don't forget:
'Wear of a weapon is mandatory with the exception of jogging or in the Fitness Tent'
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Heard along the grapevine that one of the NATO requirements is also EU citizenship....
May throw a spanner in the works for the mob from down under that haven't managed to find their forefathers that stole a loaf of bread and got us sent to the colonies.....
May throw a spanner in the works for the mob from down under that haven't managed to find their forefathers that stole a loaf of bread and got us sent to the colonies.....
Nice one.....
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I think you'll find the 83K figure will be quite easily explained away as: "I meant to put 8.3, that is, 8,300 per annum. No hang on, that's after training, it's 5,000 per annum until you go solo. No don't worry, you don't need any training or any security checks, I say you can go in that's that, I'm well respected me".
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Dear God (or PPrune Towers)
please hear my prayer
God please let the kandahar gig goto somone else but SS
God please let all the ATCO's that applied work for any company but SS
God please make SS pay for advertising like everyone else
God please make SS provide quality equipment for its staff
God please change those silly vehicles that drive around my station for something fit for purpose
God please let all my fellow ATCO's sleep well knowing that they were all exposed and are now subject to whitch hunts
Thank you God (or PPrune Towers) for hearing my prayer
please hear my prayer
God please let the kandahar gig goto somone else but SS
God please let all the ATCO's that applied work for any company but SS
God please make SS pay for advertising like everyone else
God please make SS provide quality equipment for its staff
God please change those silly vehicles that drive around my station for something fit for purpose
God please let all my fellow ATCO's sleep well knowing that they were all exposed and are now subject to whitch hunts
Thank you God (or PPrune Towers) for hearing my prayer
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Moving on from the public slagging of SS ( which is a bit offside in my humble opinion), can anyone shed any light on what is going on in K at present; and what the future ATC plan for the place may be? I would very much doubt that the RAAF will be involved in any activity over there as they are very very short in the manning stakes at present: with one northern joint user base gapping all middle management (no SQNLDRS for several months) and having only 2.5 years average experience! Corporate knowledge there aint - but maybe thats food for another thread!
DogGone:
DogGone:
