Squawk Ident on departure?
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From: Essex Boy
Do I read back "squawk ident"?
So having been asked to "squawk ident" do you expect to hear a reply "squawk ident Bigair 123", or just silence?
Cap 413 says you should read back transponder settings, yet the example given in the new glossy book sent to me implies that no reply is necessary.
Which is correct?
Thanks,
MisterB
Cap 413 says you should read back transponder settings, yet the example given in the new glossy book sent to me implies that no reply is necessary.
Which is correct?
Thanks,
MisterB
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I would expect an acknowledgement of the instruction to squawk Ident, as you say, it is a transponder setting.
The glossy book, if it's the same one I received, contains errors, omissions and contradictions!
Normally at Aberdeen we identify prenotified departures within 1nm, as 10W mentioned. However, a few months ago we had to use a remote radar head for a while, and we then had to use the Ident on all departures. The use of the Alanshill radar also led to an increased radar separation requirement from 3 nm to 5 nm, with a commensurate increase in the need for holding and/or extended routing on arrivals. Thankfully, the usual Perwinnes radar is back and "normal" service has been resumed.
The glossy book, if it's the same one I received, contains errors, omissions and contradictions!
Normally at Aberdeen we identify prenotified departures within 1nm, as 10W mentioned. However, a few months ago we had to use a remote radar head for a while, and we then had to use the Ident on all departures. The use of the Alanshill radar also led to an increased radar separation requirement from 3 nm to 5 nm, with a commensurate increase in the need for holding and/or extended routing on arrivals. Thankfully, the usual Perwinnes radar is back and "normal" service has been resumed.
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From: swanwick carp lake
i always expect a reply and 9 out of 10 times i get one. the odd time i don't i find myself pausing, not wanting to transmit my next instruction to another a/c incase this a/c's reply is just a couple of seconds late and I don't want to end up crossing with other stations and generally stamping on each others transmissions. Which as we all know is THE most annoying thing when you are really busy and have 5 things to do at once!! ha ha
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From: Hants
Misterblue -
Please reply - it annoys the hell out of me if pilots don't....
a) it's rude
b) it's an instruction
c) if "C/S squawk ident" is the only thing I say in my first transmission to a departing A/C and they do not reply, how do I know they heard me? I cannot use the fact that they display the ident feature as confirmation that they heard me, as that may be coincidence... hell, the crew might be doing it because they did not hear my reply and they want to somehow attract my attention!!!
Please reply - it annoys the hell out of me if pilots don't....
a) it's rude
b) it's an instruction
c) if "C/S squawk ident" is the only thing I say in my first transmission to a departing A/C and they do not reply, how do I know they heard me? I cannot use the fact that they display the ident feature as confirmation that they heard me, as that may be coincidence... hell, the crew might be doing it because they did not hear my reply and they want to somehow attract my attention!!!
