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Hi all, just a quick question.
i'm really struggling with the maths side of this, as it is not my strong point, my stage 1 is end of june, and I was just wondering what is the best way to do large multiplication in your head and large division in your head, as i'm struggling with the s/d/t
i'm really struggling with the maths side of this, as it is not my strong point, my stage 1 is end of june, and I was just wondering what is the best way to do large multiplication in your head and large division in your head, as i'm struggling with the s/d/t
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Sat my Stage 1 on 8th (am) and got my result today.
Hope there's good news for my fellow stage 1ers.
Edit: @MrBlue92
IMHO you don't really need to multiply or divide any really big numbers. Anything over 3 digits usually ends in a stream of zeros so it can be simplified easily.
I spent weeks learning the Trachtenberg System so I could multiply or divide numbers from hundreds to the thousands of millions but it was a wasted effort. All you need is to practice the S/D/T questions online and you'll get used to the patterns
Good luck.
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Edit: @MrBlue92
IMHO you don't really need to multiply or divide any really big numbers. Anything over 3 digits usually ends in a stream of zeros so it can be simplified easily.
I spent weeks learning the Trachtenberg System so I could multiply or divide numbers from hundreds to the thousands of millions but it was a wasted effort. All you need is to practice the S/D/T questions online and you'll get used to the patterns
Good luck.
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Well done April 8th stage 1 people, has anyone from the 15th April tests got their results back yet?
I've got to the point where I can't take my phone out with me as I check it for emails every couple of minutes!
I've got to the point where I can't take my phone out with me as I check it for emails every couple of minutes!
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@MrBlue92.
As has been said the best way to get to grips with s/d/t questions is to keep practicing at them.
Do a search for s/d/t for dummies and there is a forum somewhere with a massive thread that explains s/d/t in terms of how to do it in your head. Don't forget that at NATS stage 1, you do get to use paper. If you aren't feeling confident with your maths practice doing it as quickly as possible on paper. Then start doing the more simple ones in your head etc until it almost becomes second nature. Honestly it does get easier with practice, I was pants at s/d/t this time two months ago and managed to get past the 1st two stages of stage 1 last Friday.
If you haven't seen it mentioned in this thread do a search for OASC aswell it is a great site for practicing.
If you want any help with it, PM me and I will try my best.
@Pinkwingo.
Nope no news here from the 15th. At least we can stop checking emails until next tuesday! lol
As has been said the best way to get to grips with s/d/t questions is to keep practicing at them.
Do a search for s/d/t for dummies and there is a forum somewhere with a massive thread that explains s/d/t in terms of how to do it in your head. Don't forget that at NATS stage 1, you do get to use paper. If you aren't feeling confident with your maths practice doing it as quickly as possible on paper. Then start doing the more simple ones in your head etc until it almost becomes second nature. Honestly it does get easier with practice, I was pants at s/d/t this time two months ago and managed to get past the 1st two stages of stage 1 last Friday.
If you haven't seen it mentioned in this thread do a search for OASC aswell it is a great site for practicing.
If you want any help with it, PM me and I will try my best.
@Pinkwingo.
Nope no news here from the 15th. At least we can stop checking emails until next tuesday! lol
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Not sure if there's any restrictions on selling on here but mainly looking to help and off-load unwanted books.....
I have dropped off the trainee ATCO program
and have 4 books someone on here might want for a nominal fee (P&P plus a little extra);
Air pilot's manual: Aviation Law and Meterology (good for law)
From the flight deck: plane talk and sky science (Air canada pilot talks through a flight beginning to end)
Pocket guide to commercial aircrafty (good for a/c recog)
Air cops (American ex-ATCO talks about his career)
Comibined RRP about £50 so could save yourself a fair bit. PM me.
Cheers
I have dropped off the trainee ATCO program
and have 4 books someone on here might want for a nominal fee (P&P plus a little extra);Air pilot's manual: Aviation Law and Meterology (good for law)
From the flight deck: plane talk and sky science (Air canada pilot talks through a flight beginning to end)
Pocket guide to commercial aircrafty (good for a/c recog)
Air cops (American ex-ATCO talks about his career)
Comibined RRP about £50 so could save yourself a fair bit. PM me.
Cheers
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@gazb2
I'll be seeing you next week (3rd of May).
So that you can recognise me I will be the one wearing a dress and I'll duct tape fireworks to my hands.
If that doesn't impress them then I might have to try harder.
@thosewhowerethereonthe8thofApril
I'm like roitos above. Got my reply last Thursday, done the personality questionnaire and booked my stage 2.
Haven't seen anyone from the 15th talking about getting their results so I wouldn't worry yet.
Hope everyone gets a favourable response. Good luck.
I'll be seeing you next week (3rd of May).
So that you can recognise me I will be the one wearing a dress and I'll duct tape fireworks to my hands.
If that doesn't impress them then I might have to try harder.
@thosewhowerethereonthe8thofApril
I'm like roitos above. Got my reply last Thursday, done the personality questionnaire and booked my stage 2.
Haven't seen anyone from the 15th talking about getting their results so I wouldn't worry yet.
Hope everyone gets a favourable response. Good luck.
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April 8th (pm) Failed
Well next time if it will be next time???
but i know that i did well in the cube and reasoning!
must have been the overall score i didnt do very well at the numeracy,
even tho i passed first phase of the day... anyway
Well next time if it will be next time???
but i know that i did well in the cube and reasoning!
must have been the overall score i didnt do very well at the numeracy,
even tho i passed first phase of the day... anyway
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@etsak
You can always try and call HR and politely ask if they can have a quick look at your results and give a hint where you went wrong. Some people have managed to get some feedback this way, it's nothing to count on though but it might be worth a try.
You can always try and call HR and politely ask if they can have a quick look at your results and give a hint where you went wrong. Some people have managed to get some feedback this way, it's nothing to count on though but it might be worth a try.
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Thanks crazy V
i know that in the atc questions i did well
i know that in the numeracy was so so, i didnt complete the 5 last q's
and i had some mistakes cos i checked afterwards,
but reasoning and cubes, i know i did well cos its my favourite, plus in the cubes i answered all 40 but of cource i dont expect them to be all correct.
others were better than me obviously
anyway ive already send them an e-mail will see
i know that in the atc questions i did well
i know that in the numeracy was so so, i didnt complete the 5 last q's
and i had some mistakes cos i checked afterwards,
but reasoning and cubes, i know i did well cos its my favourite, plus in the cubes i answered all 40 but of cource i dont expect them to be all correct.
others were better than me obviously
anyway ive already send them an e-mail will see
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Sorry to hear that etsak mate, hopefully they will let you know where you went wrong, just wondering, the ATC test is first right? hope so because i'm like you I think, struggle on the numercy (s/d/t). But good luck if you apply again 