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Don't let them get to you...
I didn't mind the cubes, but i seem quite happy with spatial reasoning etc. i was at the London tests on the 22nd.
One thing i found weird was that they sent us the booklet to learn and then nothing was done with it. Also allo the rumours of maths tests etc scared the hell out of me and then no mention. I suppose they save that for stage 2.
Woohoo.....
I didn't mind the cubes, but i seem quite happy with spatial reasoning etc. i was at the London tests on the 22nd.
One thing i found weird was that they sent us the booklet to learn and then nothing was done with it. Also allo the rumours of maths tests etc scared the hell out of me and then no mention. I suppose they save that for stage 2.
Woohoo.....
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We may not know anything about you, but the way you present yourself to the world isn`t helping anyone to treat you seriously. If you do get into the profession (good luck by the way) you will find to be accepted, you are going to have to put up quite cheerfully with ,what on the face of it, is some quite savage "banter". The best amongst us are quite adept at taking the p*ss out of ourselves.....when you start doing that, we may start to think better of you.
We may not know anything about you, but the way you present yourself to the world isn`t helping anyone to treat you seriously. If you do get into the profession (good luck by the way) you will find to be accepted, you are going to have to put up quite cheerfully with ,what on the face of it, is some quite savage "banter". The best amongst us are quite adept at taking the p*ss out of ourselves.....when you start doing that, we may start to think better of you.
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Jesus. I think people here are being a little bit over sensitive to mofo here. I've read his 1st post a few times. Eager and a little over-excited maybe. Nothing some valium won't sort out.....
I certainly didn't pick up this from mofo's posting......
Mofo, ignore these people. These are the same people who would complain that new recruits only join for the money/no interest in the job etc etc. Then as soon as someone is quick to show willing and excitement about a possible career in ATC they shoot them down.
I was in your position 7 years ago. It can be very nerve-racking waiting for your results. In the meantime maybe see if you can visit your local ATC unit. I know you will be asked to do that if you get through the 1st stage anyway, but it will do you no harm at all if you do it now. You could buy some books on ATC, start learning how to identify and tell the difference between different aircraft etc etc. But mainly, don't worry about the results of your tests. They will arrive eventually and you worrying about it won't make them arrive any quicker!
P.S Apologies in advance to the ATC English Grammar and Spelling Society for any grammatical errors in my post.........
Another example of the "I want it now!" attitude prevalent in todays society.
Mofoho - your post looks the ravings of a spoilt, self obsessed brat who is the last type of person anyone would wish to employ, never mind being responsible for thousands of lives daily.
Stop being a tw@t and grow up - 15 days means 15 days (or can't candidates count these days? Certainly can't spell that's for certain!)
Mofoho - your post looks the ravings of a spoilt, self obsessed brat who is the last type of person anyone would wish to employ, never mind being responsible for thousands of lives daily.
Stop being a tw@t and grow up - 15 days means 15 days (or can't candidates count these days? Certainly can't spell that's for certain!)
Mofo, ignore these people. These are the same people who would complain that new recruits only join for the money/no interest in the job etc etc. Then as soon as someone is quick to show willing and excitement about a possible career in ATC they shoot them down.
I was in your position 7 years ago. It can be very nerve-racking waiting for your results. In the meantime maybe see if you can visit your local ATC unit. I know you will be asked to do that if you get through the 1st stage anyway, but it will do you no harm at all if you do it now. You could buy some books on ATC, start learning how to identify and tell the difference between different aircraft etc etc. But mainly, don't worry about the results of your tests. They will arrive eventually and you worrying about it won't make them arrive any quicker!
P.S Apologies in advance to the ATC English Grammar and Spelling Society for any grammatical errors in my post.........
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thanx vampy, post made me feel better *not sarcastic* and im gonna visit the ATC unit if i get thru *say a prayer i do* n ive already done sum aircraft research
and in response to chilliconcarne: i was shocked at the motivation exam 2, i learned that bloody booklet inside and out to get asked like 3 questions on it! did u find ne of the aptitude tests difficult?
in response to Loki: "present myself to the world"- this is a forum.
and by the way i am very capable of taking the piss out of myself, its one of my traits *dont no whether thats a good thing or not!* but as i have said before, being called a self-obsessed brat isnt acceptable or "banter" and the person wasnt taking the piss out of me or themselves, they were insulting me for no reason. thats called being a ******** and its really not on.
People like yourself and HD dont exactly encourage wannabe atco's.
quote of the year: "we may start to think better of u". o.dear.god.
i dont care what u think of me, i started this thread to primarily talk to people in the same position as myself.aside from that, on any level, on any forum, at any age or in any profession-u have no right to say that to anyone as if u have the right to judge.
and in response to chilliconcarne: i was shocked at the motivation exam 2, i learned that bloody booklet inside and out to get asked like 3 questions on it! did u find ne of the aptitude tests difficult?
in response to Loki: "present myself to the world"- this is a forum.
and by the way i am very capable of taking the piss out of myself, its one of my traits *dont no whether thats a good thing or not!* but as i have said before, being called a self-obsessed brat isnt acceptable or "banter" and the person wasnt taking the piss out of me or themselves, they were insulting me for no reason. thats called being a ******** and its really not on.
People like yourself and HD dont exactly encourage wannabe atco's.
quote of the year: "we may start to think better of u". o.dear.god.
i dont care what u think of me, i started this thread to primarily talk to people in the same position as myself.aside from that, on any level, on any forum, at any age or in any profession-u have no right to say that to anyone as if u have the right to judge.
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You were actually asked questions on the booklet? We only had about 3 questions passed out way during the presentation but nothing major.
We didn't do a 'motivation paper', went straight in for the number/letters/cubes/commands tests, then had a presentation and then had the personality 'which is more true of you' test.
And no i didn't find the tests hard, i think i answered about 32 - 36 out of 40 for pretty much all the tests, apart from the cubes which i can't remember. Maybe that's too many and i ballsed up somewhere seriously but we'll wait and see!
Keeping everything crossed!
Chile
We didn't do a 'motivation paper', went straight in for the number/letters/cubes/commands tests, then had a presentation and then had the personality 'which is more true of you' test.
And no i didn't find the tests hard, i think i answered about 32 - 36 out of 40 for pretty much all the tests, apart from the cubes which i can't remember. Maybe that's too many and i ballsed up somewhere seriously but we'll wait and see!
Keeping everything crossed!
Chile
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mofoho - a gentle word of advice
The people you have a go at here today, are possibly the College Instructors or OJTI's who will sit on your shoulder tomorrow.
ATC is a VERY small world
The people you have a go at here today, are possibly the College Instructors or OJTI's who will sit on your shoulder tomorrow.
ATC is a VERY small world
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Assuming you get that far, you are going to have to start caring what people think of you; trust me, it matters.
Once you get going you will be relying on the goodwill and professionalism of your instructors and the people you will be working alongside. You won`t get far by antagonising the folk you depend on for success.
Once again, good luck in your endeavours.
Once you get going you will be relying on the goodwill and professionalism of your instructors and the people you will be working alongside. You won`t get far by antagonising the folk you depend on for success.
Once again, good luck in your endeavours.
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jesus christ. i didnt antagonize anyone, this was not started by me.and i think listening to authority figures give advice or constructively criticise me is a tad different than listening to jibes made my people i dont know on a forum.
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and yea we were asked questions-we got like an exam asking various things on the information given in the booklet plus a few mathematical scenarious;was quite straight forward tho.and my god! how do u not remember the cubes! dreaded cubes! haunt me!
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Mofo - well you do have a point to be sure. You were merely expressing your heightened anxiety levels waiting for a response.
All the best and let's be totally inclusive in our group hug, eh?
All the best and let's be totally inclusive in our group hug, eh?
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*huffs a bit* *folds arms* ...oh okay then! HD IS WELCOME IN GROUP HUG! *waits for response "i dont give a **** about ur group hug u ****"*
thanku for making this thread seem fluffy again tho flamelily!
thanku for making this thread seem fluffy again tho flamelily!
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Hi Mofoho
At least you seem to possess a good sense of humour and well done for standing your ground and responding appropriately to some of the unwarranted personal comments.
Back to the fluff!
All the best.
At least you seem to possess a good sense of humour and well done for standing your ground and responding appropriately to some of the unwarranted personal comments.
Back to the fluff!
All the best.
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Against my better judgement I feel like joining in this group hug...
Whilst I'm here Id like to re-iterate my colleagues comments.
ATC is a small world. A very small world. The people you meet on the way up are the people who will decide your future in the long run.
When I was going through the process I met 10+ OJTIs at the college through pprune.
My advice? Stay grey... Blend in... Dont stand out...
At the moment, regardless of whether your comments deserved the flaming you have received, you are making yourself a big target...
This isn't a threat, this isn't me having a go... This is the way it is.
Sorry mate... Welcome to ATC.
Traaaaaaaaaa!
Whilst I'm here Id like to re-iterate my colleagues comments.
ATC is a small world. A very small world. The people you meet on the way up are the people who will decide your future in the long run.
When I was going through the process I met 10+ OJTIs at the college through pprune.
My advice? Stay grey... Blend in... Dont stand out...
At the moment, regardless of whether your comments deserved the flaming you have received, you are making yourself a big target...
This isn't a threat, this isn't me having a go... This is the way it is.
Sorry mate... Welcome to ATC.
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I think that the young man from NI on here needs to calm down slightly. I understand that he does not like getting jibes form someone he has never met but by displaying the attitude that he has on here, to a number of ATCOs he is not showing the attributes and humility that are sound requisites for being a good trainee. What the heck is an OJTI going to get when he criticises the boy's performance (which WILL happen at some stage)?
Also worth pointing out that HD is a man of donkeys years experience and one of the most listened to and respected voices on here. Perhaps you should join us in that stance.....
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Also worth pointing out that HD is a man of donkeys years experience and one of the most listened to and respected voices on here. Perhaps you should join us in that stance.....
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i understand your points and whilst they are very valid i want to make a few of my own:
1: i can take the piss out of myself 2:i can take criticism 3:i really respect professionals and anyone experienced in any field 4:i am aware ATC is a small world but at the same time i havnt given away any details about myself.
i just dont think the way i was responded to was right. thats all. u talk about humility and respect...certain ppl who responded to me dont deserve it of me in this instance. end of.
thanku for ur advice tho, i know ur jus trying to help. i just wudnt talk to ne1 else the way they talked to me.thats the line.
1: i can take the piss out of myself 2:i can take criticism 3:i really respect professionals and anyone experienced in any field 4:i am aware ATC is a small world but at the same time i havnt given away any details about myself.
i just dont think the way i was responded to was right. thats all. u talk about humility and respect...certain ppl who responded to me dont deserve it of me in this instance. end of.
thanku for ur advice tho, i know ur jus trying to help. i just wudnt talk to ne1 else the way they talked to me.thats the line.