Reporting of passing FL
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Also, as a slight digression, any unit in the UK with callsign Approach, Radar or Director wants your cleared level, aircraft type and what ATIS you've got on first contact, unless you're told to contact it "with callsign only".
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We were given AIC 96/2005 yellow 183. It states for subsequent frequency changes only give aircraft identification and level information:
In level flight but cleared to another level, give current and cleared levels; if not in level flight give cleared level only.
Subsequent means that you have already called in to departures and given passing and cleared levels to check mode c.
In level flight but cleared to another level, give current and cleared levels; if not in level flight give cleared level only.
Subsequent means that you have already called in to departures and given passing and cleared levels to check mode c.
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If a pillot is cleared, for example, to descend to cross LAM at FL 080. He elects to delay starting descent using FMS-based VNAV. Under radar control, does he need to report when he actually leaves his present level??
GF
FAA says yes, but I am interested in CAA/ICAO standards.
If a pillot is cleared, for example, to descend to cross LAM at FL 080. He elects to delay starting descent using FMS-based VNAV. Under radar control, does he need to report when he actually leaves his present level??
GF
FAA says yes, but I am interested in CAA/ICAO standards.
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Galaxy, CAP 413 Chapter 3 says -
1.2.3.4 Pilots are expected to comply with ATC instructions as soon as they are issued. However, when a climb/descent is left to the discretion of the pilot, the words ‘when ready’ shall be used; in these circumstances the pilot will report ‘leaving’ his present level.
So I'd say the answer is yes ....... I think!
1.2.3.4 Pilots are expected to comply with ATC instructions as soon as they are issued. However, when a climb/descent is left to the discretion of the pilot, the words ‘when ready’ shall be used; in these circumstances the pilot will report ‘leaving’ his present level.
So I'd say the answer is yes ....... I think!
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There is also some guidance on this subject from the CAA on their website here:
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SRG-NATS_RTDISCIP.PDF
slightly more readable than CAP 413 (but not much!).
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http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SRG-NATS_RTDISCIP.PDF
slightly more readable than CAP 413 (but not much!).
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Thanks very much, you are obviously NOT living up to your name. I read CAP 413 Chap 3 and missed the relavant sentence. Settles an argument alright!!
GF
Thanks very much, you are obviously NOT living up to your name. I read CAP 413 Chap 3 and missed the relavant sentence. Settles an argument alright!!
GF
