Does anyone know
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Does anyone know
why many foreign operated aircraft are turning off the 27LDVR SID well below 4000ft?
I'm suspecting a recent FMS update has gone awry. Anyone know who supplies Gulf Air and Saudi, to name but two?
I'm suspecting a recent FMS update has gone awry. Anyone know who supplies Gulf Air and Saudi, to name but two?
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if its anything like the last few days.... especially sunday. its all about the weather.
27l dvrs turning out of only 2000ft if that heading 090.... 125....110....125
if pilots cant keep to the sid, then they shouldnt really get airborne... even with mdi's on its was hard work to get you all up and away in one piece.
a small thank you, which im happy to say we get from most crews is always a pleasure to hear before they go to the next frequency.
w
27l dvrs turning out of only 2000ft if that heading 090.... 125....110....125
if pilots cant keep to the sid, then they shouldnt really get airborne... even with mdi's on its was hard work to get you all up and away in one piece.
a small thank you, which im happy to say we get from most crews is always a pleasure to hear before they go to the next frequency.
w
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if its anything like the last few days.... especially sunday. its all about the weather.
27l dvrs turning out of only 2000ft if that heading 090.... 125....110....125
if pilots cant keep to the sid, then they shouldnt really get airborne... even with mdi's on its was hard work to get you all up and away in one piece.
a small thank you, which im happy to say we get from most crews is always a pleasure to hear before they go to the next frequency.
w
27l dvrs turning out of only 2000ft if that heading 090.... 125....110....125
if pilots cant keep to the sid, then they shouldnt really get airborne... even with mdi's on its was hard work to get you all up and away in one piece.
a small thank you, which im happy to say we get from most crews is always a pleasure to hear before they go to the next frequency.
w
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well that is strange then... are you talking of them heading east before epsom?
this has never happened while im in, and have not heard of any colleagues mentioning it......but not to say it doesnt happen.
are you sure they arent out of 4000? as we do turn them early (before EPM) if heathrow inbound traffic permits and climb them, but still, only after 4000ft.
if they are would love to know why though.
this has never happened while im in, and have not heard of any colleagues mentioning it......but not to say it doesnt happen.
are you sure they arent out of 4000? as we do turn them early (before EPM) if heathrow inbound traffic permits and climb them, but still, only after 4000ft.
if they are would love to know why though.
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I have seen quite a few A/C balloon round the corner on the DVR SID, going wide and then trying to pick the radial back up again to EPM, but not witnessed what Flight Man is on about.
Wizad
Agree with you there, though it does not help when the tower asks pilots who glibly reply "yes, we can fly the SID", then they get airborne and immediately bleat about being unable to turn. Sounds like a bit of skull duggery by the pilots IMHO. Makes it worse that it was done by the 'Worlds Favourite Airline" as well as others.
Wizad
if pilots cant keep to the sid, then they shouldnt really get airborne... even with mdi's on its was hard work to get you all up and away in one piece.
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It was happening again today and weather was fine.
Initial turns at about 1.5-2nm and only 2A. SID hasn't changed so don't know what the reason is.
Wizad
And we all know how much you radar boyos hate hard work don't we?!?
FB
Initial turns at about 1.5-2nm and only 2A. SID hasn't changed so don't know what the reason is.
Wizad
was hard work to get you all up and away in one piece
FB
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flybhoy......
the only hard work i hate is answering the phone to some brash scotsman bleating out '' can ye' take 2 minutes''.......
if i had my way we would get an answer phone system....
'' for 2 minutes between 2 dvrs, please hang up and try again''
w
the only hard work i hate is answering the phone to some brash scotsman bleating out '' can ye' take 2 minutes''.......
if i had my way we would get an answer phone system....
'' for 2 minutes between 2 dvrs, please hang up and try again''
w
