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Getting a bit lost within my own thread here. I believe all of my original points still stand and here we are again bickering.
Flyboy-reduced college salary-my starting salary at NATS (CAA then) was 11K but that was back when the locker room was still a cinema, the procedural course was in the cowshed and the ATMDC didnt even exist. Guess we shouldn't make assumptions about people.
My original point was about the poor way our management handled a GM swap whilst patting themselves on the back for a job well done; and as for it descending into points scoring over whether england and scotland are different countries!?
Sometimes I despair.
Flyboy-reduced college salary-my starting salary at NATS (CAA then) was 11K but that was back when the locker room was still a cinema, the procedural course was in the cowshed and the ATMDC didnt even exist. Guess we shouldn't make assumptions about people.
My original point was about the poor way our management handled a GM swap whilst patting themselves on the back for a job well done; and as for it descending into points scoring over whether england and scotland are different countries!?
Sometimes I despair.
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From: In the South
MAHABA,
I'm always amazed when the 'mobile grade' issue gets thrown into the equation. When you joined and signed the peice of paper stating that the post was a mobile grade and you could be moved anywhere within the UK etc... why on earth did you not express your concerns then and explain to NATS that this was not legally enforceable!? Why did you sign? And what did you understand when you signed on the dotted line?
Would you still complain I wonder if you had failed a validation and NATS had the nerve to turn around and offer you employment elsewhere within the company - and dare I say - you had to move! Would you accept it? Ofcourse not, because NATS can't do that, it's not legally enforceable!
I'm always amazed when the 'mobile grade' issue gets thrown into the equation. When you joined and signed the peice of paper stating that the post was a mobile grade and you could be moved anywhere within the UK etc... why on earth did you not express your concerns then and explain to NATS that this was not legally enforceable!? Why did you sign? And what did you understand when you signed on the dotted line?
Would you still complain I wonder if you had failed a validation and NATS had the nerve to turn around and offer you employment elsewhere within the company - and dare I say - you had to move! Would you accept it? Ofcourse not, because NATS can't do that, it's not legally enforceable!
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One of our problems is that the mobile grade only applies in one direction, the other is that the way this whole move has been handled has been, on, off, never happen, happen in 2 years, now 4, now you can move south if you wish, now you cant...no solid answers or honesty for years.
And yes, when I signed the mobile grade was legally enforceable and I was happy with that. Now its not and I think that should be recognised and people should be made away of any options which are available to them. Thats all.
And yes, when I signed the mobile grade was legally enforceable and I was happy with that. Now its not and I think that should be recognised and people should be made away of any options which are available to them. Thats all.
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From: Sunny Warwickshire
I know, just stay at MACC and when the floor gets converted to a fast food spotters cafe, you can get a job flipping burgers and amaze the punters with your stories of getting exactly 5 miles when it counted and averting disaster with one single transmission saving countless lives on a daily basis, but just got screwed by the company.
The reality is that MACC is moving up North.
You could hope to get redundancy.
The money would go a long way wouldn't it????
Scotland is a great country to both live and work in, the educational system is second to none, the people are friendly (in and around Ayrshire and Glasgow at least) and the cost of living is about the same as Manchester / Cheshire (depending on where you decide to live)
If the "mobile grade" isn't legally enforcable, when will you be ballotting for industrial action? Would it go through?
The reality is that MACC is moving up North.
You could hope to get redundancy.
The money would go a long way wouldn't it????
Scotland is a great country to both live and work in, the educational system is second to none, the people are friendly (in and around Ayrshire and Glasgow at least) and the cost of living is about the same as Manchester / Cheshire (depending on where you decide to live)
If the "mobile grade" isn't legally enforcable, when will you be ballotting for industrial action? Would it go through?
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From: ISZ - not the end of the world, but you can see it from here.
Mobile grade.
I have been waiting 6 years for NATS to hold true to their end of the bargain and post me to another unit.
Maybe see you there. I'll be one of the cheery souls.
Different strokes for different folks. ATCOs doubly so.
I have been waiting 6 years for NATS to hold true to their end of the bargain and post me to another unit.
Maybe see you there. I'll be one of the cheery souls.
Different strokes for different folks. ATCOs doubly so.
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From: UK
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From: The Grim North
[quote=Mahaba;2876160]Pprune radar
Point one. The United Kingdom is NOT a country
England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland ARE countries
The United Kingdom is a nation.
Wales is NOT a country! It is a principality. Don't let the rarebits tell you otherwise!!!
Point one. The United Kingdom is NOT a country
England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland ARE countries
The United Kingdom is a nation.
Wales is NOT a country! It is a principality. Don't let the rarebits tell you otherwise!!!
